# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

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**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/481 "2008-03-31T20:55:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
If not for marriage.  
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Don’t see why - with the mentality of a beautiful elf-maid and the ability to cast _polymorph self_, I’m sure love could have found a way had the question ever arisen. 😃

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/482 "2008-03-31T21:14:12Z")

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I wonder if **What Exit?** is working out our XP at the same time as well as writing the next section.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/483 "2008-03-31T21:54:37Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
I wonder if **What Exit?** is working out our XP at the same time as well as writing the next section.  
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Yes and no, I have a fairly good idea and just to to iron out the finishing touches.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/484 "2008-04-01T02:05:51Z")

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Well I finally checked my notes. The Healing order are followers of Estë.

They wear gray raiments and Heal with Herbology as a Ranger, require Int of 14+ and all heals work at double effectiveness. The have no weapon use. However they are always the least likely to be attacked. It is effectively a field of barely being noticeable in combat. This is often far more valuable than armor.

They can also boost some Clerical non-combat spells. As an example, she could help Ghân produce a greater number of Goodberries and have them last longer.

I will find a way to introduce her at Minas Tirith, I don’t think it will be hard.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/485 "2008-04-01T02:18:18Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
I wonder if **What Exit?** is working out our XP at the same time as well as writing the next section.  
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[Channeling my pupils] Sir! Sir! Mulligan’s the first to ask about experience points! 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/486 "2008-04-01T02:24:36Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Well I finally checked my notes. The Healing order are followers of Estë.

They wear gray raiments and Heal with Herbology as a Ranger, require Int of 14+ and all heals work at double effectiveness. The have no weapon use. However they are always the least likely to be attacked. It is effectively a field of barely being noticeable in combat. This is often far more valuable than armor.

They can also boost some Clerical non-combat spells. As an example, she could help Ghân produce a greater number of Goodberries and have them last longer.

I will find a way to introduce her at Minas Tirith, I don’t think it will be hard.  
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Knows herbology; double strength heals 🆒 ; ‘Sanctuary’ v enemies 🙂 ; boost other healers 😃 …

…I think she has a much chance of getting in our party as [David Archuleta](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkQoryVAtug) does of reaching the finals of American Idol!!

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/487 "2008-04-01T12:41:38Z")

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Don’t forget it is very likely she is **hot**! Hot chicks always allowed in, regardless of class abilities.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/488 "2008-04-01T12:48:45Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Don’t forget it is very likely she is **hot**! Hot chicks always allowed in, regardless of class abilities.  
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And they wonder why female roleplayers are so rare :dubious:

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/489 "2008-04-01T13:06:19Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
And they wonder why female roleplayers are so rare :dubious:  
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He is joking upon the common theme. At least I hope he is. 😉

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/490 "2008-04-01T13:11:51Z")

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Yeah, I keep thinking Aragorn in _DMOTR_. Note that I’m keeping it to the set-up thread.

ETA: Along with the flying squirrel comments 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/491 "2008-04-01T13:20:43Z")

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From the [other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9638475&postcount=789):

> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Caramir agrees with Deor, “Dogs left wolves long ago, but they are indeed descended from wolves and still close kin. It would seem that when men first awoke the dogs came to them. Cats waited until men became home dwellers and builders and I understand that is was the Elves that tamed cats and then cats tried to tame men. In the end, it is rarely wolves that trouble men, but their other close cousins the Wargs and the Winter Wolves that were bred by the Witch King.”

How about ferrets? When did they come along? I’m a ranger, I should be able to have a pet too! Polecats were common in England; Professor Tolkien would have known of them.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/492 "2008-04-01T13:29:49Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
I’m a ranger, I should be able to have a pet too!  
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Hah! Ghân can track, so he should get some ranger abilities. 🙂 :eek:

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/493 "2008-04-01T14:58:07Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
From the [other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9638475&postcount=789):How about ferrets? When did they come along? I’m a ranger, I should be able to have a pet too! Polecats were common in England; Professor Tolkien would have known of them.  
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Actually Rangers can and should have intelligent pets if they desire. Ferrets exist in my version of Middle Earth.

As you will never get a Copper Dragon as a follower, I instead like to play in the idea of animal friends along the way. A Ferret would be appropriate to your level.

However if you are at all thinking Beast Master, then expect to wait a few years before the ferret could be that useful.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/494 "2008-04-01T15:01:42Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
However if you are at all thinking Beast Master, then expect to wait a few years before the ferret could be that useful.  
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Curses, foiled again. You continually see through my nefarious, but painfully obvious, plots. Would it make a difference if I hit the gym some more and wore a loincloth? 🆒

Hmmm, maybe I could adopt a Miniature Giant Space Hamster…

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/496 "2008-04-01T16:27:45Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Curses, foiled again. You continually see through my nefarious, but painfully obvious, plots. Would it make a difference if I hit the gym some more and wore a loincloth? 🆒

Hmmm, maybe I could adopt a Miniature Giant Space Hamster…  
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Well considering your other posts in the setup thread, I assume you were angling to rescue a slave girl that looked like the young Tanya Roberts.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/497 "2008-04-01T16:40:54Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
hehehe Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy Fluffy

😃  
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Thoroncir would like to get a mumakil, but only if it can be _extremely_ quiet. 😛

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Thoroncir would like to get a mumakil, but only if it can be _extremely_ quiet. 😛  
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You can’t. Sorry.

Because “mumakil” is the plural, so you can’t get _a_…

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Leave it to an Elf to be pedantic. :rolleyes: 😉

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