# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/601 "2008-04-03T18:32:14Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
But just in case, how big a supply wagon can our mounts pull? 😃 :smack:  
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Anyone got a spare Mumakil 😉

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/602 "2008-04-03T18:38:03Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
I agree completely with this. The shadow of Evil, appearing over thousands of years, has been completely lifted.  
Good has triumphed (at least in the city) and there is a wonderful atmosphere.  
The King has returned!  
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But men are…well…men. There’s never been a military that didn’t need…_entertainment_…in their down time. But maybe the Men of Middle Earth aren’t quite as randy as their real-world counterparts.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/603 "2008-04-03T18:50:30Z")

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I see, we get underaged entertainment for the moose, but nothing for the players. 😃

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/604 "2008-04-03T18:54:55Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
But men are…well…men. There’s never been a military that didn’t need…_entertainment_…in their down time. But maybe the Men of Middle Earth aren’t quite as randy as their real-world counterparts.  
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What happens in the City of the Corsairs, stays in the City of the Corsairs.

[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
I see, we get underaged entertainment for the moose, but nothing for the players. 😃  
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I think I missed this one. 😕

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/605 "2008-04-03T19:00:29Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
What happens in the City of the Corsairs, stays in the City of the Corsairs.

I think I missed this one. 😕  
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[Post 911](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9648546&postcount=911)

> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Moose wants to know what the Pony is for?

Didn’t want to respond in the other thread. 🆒

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/606 "2008-04-03T19:05:06Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
[Post 911](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9648546&postcount=911)

Didn’t want to respond in the other thread. 🆒  
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😃

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/607 "2008-04-03T19:06:22Z")

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Gil-Gandel values quality over quantity. He got laid just the other day[sup]1[/sup], enjoyed it very much, and is content for now.

[sup]1[/sup]~150 years ago by most other people’s definitions, but time just _flies_ when you’re basking in the afterglow

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/608 "2008-04-03T19:08:40Z")

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That explains _a lot_, Elf. You need a side trip to Osgiliath more than I do.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/609 "2008-04-03T19:14:37Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
Anyone got a spare Mumakil 😉  
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I’m working on that…

**What Exit?** and **glee** , well said about Minas Tirith. It really is a completely idealized city, with more than a little of the mythical, holy Jerusalem evoked in Tolkien’s wonderful description of it.

I remember on the LOTR DVD extras, one of the set designers showed that they created a small, hanging wrought-iron sign for a ratcatcher on the Minas Tirith set, too small and inconspicuous to be noticed on the silver screen. At the time I was vaguely troubled… rats? In Minas _Tirith_? Not there - impossible! (Even though rats have probably been wherever humans have lived since the dawn of time, no matter how wonderful the city.)

Minas Tirith is just in a class all by itself. It’s one of my favorite fictional places. I think I could live very happily there, and not just because of my username.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/610 "2008-04-03T20:07:15Z")

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I am hoping everyone checks by tonight for equipment.

I want to start the new thread soon and close the first out.

\*\*One favor of the players. Please send me by PM or email what you bought or donated and what you have left of gold. I will adjust your gold on my master PC sheet to keep it up to date. \*\*

I think the only thing left to ready the next adventure is some Elven Rope and the additional Healer character.

Who was looking for rope?

Let me know if there is anything else.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/611 "2008-04-03T20:48:02Z")

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Gwaelur is in a giving mood and is willing to buy certain items for party members who need a little help getting everything they need. I might not be able to help everyone out, but some of you are close to broke. So let me know, and let me know soon if you want to take Gwaelur up on the offer.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/612 "2008-04-03T21:50:34Z")

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Before I end up as crazy as everyone else (or perhaps separate my own brand of craziness even farther away from everyone else’s brands), does everyone understand **Moose** , or only the Wose druid?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/613 "2008-04-03T21:59:19Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
But men are…well…men. There’s never been a military that didn’t need…_entertainment_…in their down time. But maybe the Men of Middle Earth aren’t quite as randy as their real-world counterparts.  
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These men have lived under the shadow of Mordor for years.  
They have seen Ogres, Trolls, Mumakil and even Nazgul attack their city.  
They have seen an undead army, a Wizard and a King come to help them.

This is not the real World.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/614 "2008-04-03T22:02:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]

I remember on the LOTR DVD extras, one of the set designers showed that they created a small, hanging wrought-iron sign for a ratcatcher on the Minas Tirith set, too small and inconspicuous to be noticed on the silver screen. At the time I was vaguely troubled… rats? In Minas _Tirith_? Not there - impossible! (Even though rats have probably been wherever humans have lived since the dawn of time, no matter how wonderful the city.)

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Ah, but when Denethor the Steward was quietly going mad, the city was in decline. Rats would have been a symptom of that…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/615 "2008-04-03T22:03:51Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Before I end up as crazy as everyone else (or perhaps separate my own brand of craziness even farther away from everyone else’s brands), does everyone understand **Moose** , or only the Wose druid?  
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The Druid always understands him. Usually Moose is talking only to him. Occasonally he says something in very basic short Westron.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/616 "2008-04-03T22:25:04Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Occas(i)onally he says something in very basic short Westron.

In that case, I want to find a clean, fresh water source, because something fermented in whatever we filled our bottles with last time!

> [@glee](#):
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> This is not the real World.

Maybe not, but what is driving the current baby boom if not a bunch of really horny, testosterone-filled men returning from war? (Actually, given Eowyn’s pursuit of Aragorn, maybe the boom is being fueled by the women)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/617 "2008-04-03T23:16:16Z")

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Plentiful food, full employment and available housing? Minas Tirith had room to spare during the War.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/618 "2008-04-03T23:28:12Z")

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That will drive immigration.

After a war, there are likely fewer men than women, so nearly every single guy can find a single or widowed gal. So as long as this horribly good-two-shoes city doesn’t have guys looking simply for quick hook-ups (see _Spitzer, Eliot_), most guys won’t have an issue finding a mate, and may find themselves in the position of having choices.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/619 "2008-04-04T00:26:34Z")

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Thoroncir already has someone in mind, as it happens…

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Anyhow, are we all basically ready to proceed? Deor is set.

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