# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Tags:** middle-earth-game\ **Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/741 "2008-04-09T16:59:48Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] Don’t quit your day job, buddy. 😛 [/QUOTE] If at first you don’t succeed… ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/742 "2008-04-09T19:13:30Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] “This fly looks odd and has some nasty knives, what matter of creature are you little fly?” [/QUOTE] Crapballs! Good luck Cat. :hides under his covers: ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/743 "2008-04-09T20:54:41Z")
For \*\*D\_Odds \*\* : [Attercop - definition of attercop by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Attercop) ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/744 "2008-04-09T21:12:05Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] For \*\*D\_Odds \*\* : [Attercop - definition of attercop by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Attercop) [/QUOTE] Hah! Just posted a wikipedia link to _ettercap_ in the game thread. 🙂 Good catch on the backstab, btw. You’re quite right - though the Monster Manual makes the same error that I did, and in its section on “Subduing Dragons” quotes an example fight in which a thief gets a backstab multiplier against a dragon. I’m sure elves, especially those who hang around in what used to be Mirkwood, are quite well schooled in spiders’ vulnerable spots, but we took it to the cleaners anyway. Now for some orcs! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/745 "2008-04-09T21:13:30Z")
We’re ready for Shelob now 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/746 "2008-04-09T21:35:21Z")
::shuddering:: Don’t say that. She’s probably still out there somewhere, meaner and hungrier (if not bigger) than ever. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/747 "2008-04-09T23:46:20Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Hah! Just posted a wikipedia link to _ettercap_ in the game thread. 🙂 Good catch on the backstab, btw. You’re quite right - though the Monster Manual makes the same error that I did, and in its section on “Subduing Dragons” quotes an example fight in which a thief gets a backstab multiplier against a dragon. I’m sure elves, especially those who hang around in what used to be Mirkwood, are quite well schooled in spiders’ vulnerable spots, but we took it to the cleaners anyway. Now for some orcs! [/QUOTE] May have been overkill- it looks like the archers could have taken it down on their own. Still, I’d rather overcompensate than undercompensate. Well played! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/748 "2008-04-09T23:50:06Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] ::shuddering:: Don’t say that. She’s probably still out there somewhere, meaner and hungrier (if not bigger) than ever. [/QUOTE] Oh, she is still out there and perhaps you will get a chance at her, but you are far from being ready for her and her children. She has become far more paranoid and cautious since that certain incident 63 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/749 "2008-04-10T04:28:32Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Oh, she is still out there and perhaps you will get a chance at her, but you are far from being ready for her and her children. She has become far more paranoid and cautious since that certain incident 63 years ago. [/QUOTE] I had a feeling you’d say that. :eek: 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/750 "2008-04-10T06:26:17Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Oh, she is still out there and perhaps you will get a chance at her, but you are far from being ready for her and her children. She has become far more paranoid and cautious since that certain incident 63 years ago. [/QUOTE] Somebody else gets to play Fly for that one, I think I have used up my quota of annoying spiders. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/751 "2008-04-10T14:16:09Z")
[QUOTE=CatInASuit] Somebody else gets to play Fly for that one, I think I have used up my quota of annoying spiders. 😉 [/QUOTE] Hobbits are 1 - 1 against Shelob. That’s a better record than any other race! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/752 "2008-04-11T00:02:31Z")
[QUOTE=appleciders] Aren’t you mixing your English high-fantasy enchantresses here? [/QUOTE] No, but I know who you are thinking of, do you recall who Renee’s Great Grandmother is? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/753 "2008-04-11T00:03:47Z")
I’m not even exactly sure who Renee is; I’ve read LOTR but not carefully in years. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/754 "2008-04-11T00:10:33Z")
[QUOTE=appleciders] I’m not even exactly sure who Renee is; I’ve read LOTR but not carefully in years. [/QUOTE] Well she is Arwen’s Daughter, who is Galadriel’s Granddaughter, who made that nice little Vial for Frodo on short notice. Just remember, your character does not know this. Of course using the term bauble may not have been the best idea. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/755 "2008-04-11T00:20:24Z")
Oh, well, that does make sense. “Bauble” just sent me straight off down the other path. No, Deor has an inkling that Renee is either important or just of interest to Thoroncir, one or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/756 "2008-04-11T00:29:49Z")
[QUOTE=appleciders] …No, Deor has an inkling that Renee is either important or just of interest to Thoroncir, one or the other. [/QUOTE] I’d say she’s both. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/757 "2008-04-11T00:50:45Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] I’d say she’s both. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Thoroncir probably just wants three of her hairs as a keepsake (mixing up references a bit there!) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/758 "2008-04-11T03:11:35Z")
Well, this _is_ Tolkienesque romantic High Fantasy after all, but if all goes well he’d like much more than that… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/759 "2008-04-11T03:17:31Z")
So the question becomes, what next, the 11 orcs in this room are dead and the small door barred. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/760 "2008-04-11T12:36:56Z")
I’m just curious, is anyone trying to map the place so far? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276.md?page=39)