# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/761 "2008-04-11T13:02:08Z")

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Not me. I’m lucky to get in posts with more than 3-4 sentences right now.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Not me. I’m lucky to get in posts with more than 3-4 sentences right now.  
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I’m just wondering how much someone is going to keep me on my toes. (It wasn’t a hint **Elendil’s Heir** ) 😉

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/763 "2008-04-11T15:04:58Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> The fiery Red eye would still be a well known symbol of orcs of Sauron.

I thought that was what you were describing, but without saying it outright, I didn’t want to leap to conclusions. If it is something that obvious, you may want to state it in the future to avoid confusion.

Knowing what it is doesn’t lessen Brin’s superstition. Palantir / drawing on cave walls - it’s all the same.

Also, I was opting for PCs (Deor) over NPCs (Renee). 😉

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/764 "2008-04-11T17:32:14Z")

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Someone asked a question in post [post=9677923]227[/post].

No, it’s _Meet_ the new boss  
Same as the old boss(P Townsend)

😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/765 "2008-04-11T17:33:45Z")

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Elven artifacts actually melting sigils of the Dark Lord off cave walls?

COOL! 😃

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/766 "2008-04-11T17:36:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Elven artifacts actually melting sigils of the Dark Lord off cave walls?

COOL! 😃  
[/QUOTE]  
I wonder if that thing would burn the swastika off the crate containing the One True Ark.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/767 "2008-04-11T17:52:03Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
I wonder if that thing would burn the swastika off the crate containing the One True Ark.  
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Actually, the way I Ref the game, I do believe it would.

Of course, the fact that Renee has both Galadriel and Eärendil the Mariner as great grandparents could only help. Even she cannot really comprehend the Eärendil part though. Can you imagine growing up and learning that your Mom’s grandfather is the brightest star in the sky? That is a tough one for even a Princess. 😉

**Translated** : \*Don’t expect her bauble to work this way for anyone else, unless one of her younger sisters also become a priestess. \*

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/768 "2008-04-11T18:03:37Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Actually, the way I Ref the game, I do believe it would.

Of course, the fact that Renee has both Galadriel and Eärendil the Mariner as great grandparents could only help. Even she cannot really comprehend the Eärendil part though. Can you imagine growing up and learning that your Mom’s grandfather is the brightest star in the sky? That is a tough one for even a Princess. 😉

**Translated** : \*Don’t expect her bauble to work this way for anyone else, unless one of her younger sisters also become a priestess. \*  
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Well, I grew up and learned that my mother’s mother wasn’t the brightest bulb in the box. Does that count? 😃 (Of course Eärendil himself isn’t the star - he just carries it about.)

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/769 "2008-04-11T18:13:59Z")

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[QUOTE=MHaye]  
Someone asked a question in post [post=9677923]227[/post].

No, it’s _Meet_ the new boss  
Same as the old boss(P Townsend)

😃  
[/QUOTE]  
But that would be plagiarism 😉

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/770 "2008-04-11T19:44:38Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
But that would be plagiarism 😉  
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Punishable by five lashes in Gondor.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/771 "2008-04-11T21:11:34Z")

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Not a very original punishment. 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/772 "2008-04-12T17:38:06Z")

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You’d prefer a hundred? :dubious:

I know, I know. I keed.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/773 "2008-04-12T20:27:15Z")

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So which doors, the secret door or the double doors with the orcs behind it?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/774 "2008-04-13T17:24:03Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
So which doors, the secret door or the double doors with the orcs behind it?  
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I’ll take “Things Bob Barker Never Said” for 500, please, Alex.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/775 "2008-04-14T12:23:25Z")

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Orc injuries will not be in red any more. Glee is correct, that only confuses things.  
So red will only be for the party and allies.

Gil-Gandel’s miss of an unarmored orc was at medium range, so you did have a -2 to hit, but even then I think you hit on a 2. So the good news is that at least you did not fumble.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/776 "2008-04-14T12:30:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
I’ll take “Things Bob Barker Never Said” for 500, please, Alex.  
[/QUOTE]

I missed this in my haste.

😃

But wasn’t that D&D’s favorite Gameshow host, Monty Hall with the Doors?

Hmmm, things that Bob Barker or Monty Hall never said could be another entire thread.

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/777 "2008-04-14T12:34:20Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Orc injuries will not be in red any more. Glee is correct, that only confuses things.  
So red will only be for the party and allies.

Gil-Gandel’s miss of an unarmored orc was at medium range, so you did have a -2 to hit, but even then I think you hit on a 2. So the good news is that at least you did not fumble.  
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Gil-Gandel…

Fumble…

At Archery…

Never…

😉

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/778 "2008-04-14T12:41:14Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
Gil-Gandel…

Fumble…

At Archery…

Never…

😉  
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I sure hope not. Any kind of a fumble percentage makes a high rate of fire a bit of a mixed blessing. 😃

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
Gil-Gandel…

Fumble…

At Archery…

Never…

😉  
[/QUOTE]

The mind boggles!

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I need a little clarification for the game thread. It sounds like the party is stepping forward into the cross passage area?

Is this correct?

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