# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/861 "2008-04-24T04:25:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
He’s there now, and rather… sticky.  
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Understatement.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/862 "2008-04-24T14:42:16Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Renee suggests, “As this is a mission for Gondor and we have a Knight of Gondor here, I think the answer to the serjeant is obvious at this point.” She pauses then continues, “I can maintain my light fairly bright and ready to flare up, let us hold this room until Mulligan and Theogrim and Deor return. If any are injured, we must all prepare to race out to their aid.”  
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Yeah, Brin’s sarcastic demeanour a shoe-in for the role, Thoroncir is far too enthusiastic for a sarjeant. 😛

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/863 "2008-04-24T14:52:23Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
Yeah, Brin’s sarcastic demeanour a shoe-in for the role, Thoroncir is far too enthusiastic for a sarjeant. 😛  
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Well technically he should be the slightly clueless freshly made Lt that is in charge of this squad and Gil-Gandel and Gwaelur should be the experienced NCOs with Brin as the [smart alec](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msmartalec.html) PFC or scouting specialist. Maybe think of the whole group as a SEAL squad. That would be especially appropriate for Thoroncir then.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/864 "2008-04-24T15:37:54Z")

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Thanks - and you even provided a link to the article on the phrase “smart aleck.” Damn, you _are_ a Doper!

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/865 "2008-04-24T17:27:44Z")

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And that makes me what, the crafty PFC who fashions a lockpick out of belly-button lint but otherwise hangs out in the background?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/866 "2008-04-24T17:30:32Z")

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Think of the career opportunities!

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/867 "2008-04-24T17:35:43Z")

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I just hope no-one starts mentioning me as the lucky team mascot. 🙂

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/868 "2008-04-24T17:36:42Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
I just hope no-one starts mentioning me as the lucky team mascot. 🙂  
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You mean like the animal that filches keys from the guards’ belts?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/869 "2008-04-24T19:44:06Z")

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Better filching than felching.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/870 "2008-04-24T20:31:14Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Well technically he should be the slightly clueless freshly made Lt that is in charge of this squad and Gil-Gandel and Gwaelur should be the experienced NCOs with Brin as the [smart alec](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/msmartalec.html) PFC or scouting specialist. Maybe think of the whole group as a SEAL squad. That would be especially appropriate for Thoroncir then.  
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The nickname Sergeant Jackrum keeps using in _Monstrous Regiment_ for a clueless young officer is “rupert”. 😃 Heh - Thoroncir as a [shavetail](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shavetail), huh?

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/871 "2008-04-24T22:04:14Z")

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> [@Gwaelur](#):
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> I am only down 9 HP right now. I will be fine. Thank you Ghan.

The joys of being a dwarf. 4th level fighter, 1,238 hit points. Excuse me, 1,229 now. 😉

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**Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/872 "2008-04-24T22:38:31Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
The joys of being a dwarf. 4th level fighter, 1,238 hit points. Excuse me, 1,229 now. 😉  
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Heh, too true.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/873 "2008-04-25T07:26:44Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
The joys of being a dwarf. 4th level fighter, 1,238 hit points. Excuse me, 1,229 now. 😉  
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Yes, and I figured you had nothing much to fear from spider venom either, what with your having been gifted double Dwarven resistance your saving throw can roughly be summarised as “Poison? What’s that?”. 😃

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/874 "2008-04-25T12:10:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Yes, and I figured you had nothing much to fear from spider venom either, what with your having been gifted double Dwarven resistance your saving throw can roughly be summarised as “Poison? What’s that?”. 😃  
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Could be worse, at higher levels his poison save will probably be categorized as “Mmmm Tasty!”

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/875 "2008-04-25T13:10:27Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Could be worse, at higher levels his poison save will probably be categorized as “Mmmm Tasty!”  
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“Ah, the crisp taste of bitter almonds! I’m glad we got this _Alchemy Jug_, or ‘condiment set’ as I like to call it!” 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/876 "2008-04-25T13:18:14Z")

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Too right. Hell, you’d think every tyrannical king would have a Dwarf taster in his great hall.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/877 "2008-04-25T13:18:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
“Ah, the crisp taste of bitter almonds! I’m glad we got this _Alchemy Jug_, or ‘condiment set’ as I like to call it!” 😃  
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BTW: Wait until the party fights undead and realizes that you are nearly immune to life drains and Ghostly aging. They probably already know you are 90% resistant to sleep and paralysis.

[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Too right. Hell, you’d think every tyrannical king would have a Dwarf taster in his great hall.  
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Well Gwaelur is very abnormal, he has a double dwarven saving throw bonus and a 19 con. This gives him a +11 save vs poison and +10 vs. magic IRC.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/878 "2008-04-25T13:29:20Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
BTW: Wait until the party fights undead and realizes that you are nearly immune to life drains and Ghostly aging. They probably already know you are 90% resistant to sleep and paralysis.  
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Yeah, well Brin is immune to logic and reason, so there! 😛

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/879 "2008-04-25T14:35:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Too right. Hell, you’d think every tyrannical king would have a Dwarf taster in his great hall.  
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Yeah, right. What good’s a food taster who always says “Tastes great, and I feel fine - off you go, my liege”? 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/880 "2008-04-25T14:54:08Z")

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Well, he’d at least know it tasted a little funky, wouldn’t he? Or maybe that would just be an amusing bouquet!

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