# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/881 "2008-04-25T15:27:52Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
BTW: Wait until the party fights undead and realizes that you are nearly immune to life drains and Ghostly aging. They probably already know you are 90% resistant to sleep and paralysis.

Well Gwaelur is very abnormal, he has a double dwarven saving throw bonus and a 19 con. This gives him a +11 save vs poison and +10 vs. magic IRC.  
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12 vs. poison actually, and 40 some odd HP with extra armour bonuses. I am an unkillable war machine!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/882 "2008-04-25T15:31:39Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
…I am an **unkillable** war machine!  
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Don’t tempt fate. They bragged that the _Titanic_ was unsinkable, too.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/883 "2008-04-25T15:33:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]  
Don’t tempt fate. They bragged that the _Titanic_ was unsinkable, too.  
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Good point.

I am a killable but very hearty war machine who in no way wants to piss off the DM or fate by bragging about my awesome stats.

I will have another sip of that arsnic soda though…mmm almondy. 🆒

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/884 "2008-04-25T19:04:33Z")

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A little help for the dumb guy from NY -

Right now, I think it is:

Thoroncir, Deor, Renee, and Brin inside the cave thinking they had the spider penned.

Gil-Gandel, Ghan, and Mal returning from an orc hunt.

Did I get this right? Where’s Theogrim?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/885 "2008-04-25T19:12:34Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
A little help for the dumb guy from NY -

Right now, I think it is:

Thoroncir, Deor, Renee, and Brin inside the cave thinking they had the spider penned.

Gil-Gandel, Ghan, and Mal returning from an orc hunt.

Did I get this right? Where’s Theogrim?  
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Outside is correct, Thoroncir, Renee, Brin, Mulligan, Theogrim & Deor are in room 7. Moose and the Huge Spider are outside the entrance where you entered (room 1 and the stairs.)

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/886 "2008-04-25T19:53:30Z")

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Just to clarify for the slow student…

We chased the spider back into 7, where it went down the hole. Renee is suggesting that it came up out of 6 and escaped outside? Well, escaped for a brief second until it met Moose…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/887 "2008-04-25T20:04:54Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Just to clarify for the slow student…

We chased the spider back into 7, where it went down the hole. Renee is suggesting that it came up out of 6 and escaped outside? Well, escaped for a brief second until it met Moose…  
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Yes, sorry.

Side note: As the ref, I desperately wanted to get this last little bit done. It took longer than I thought. I expected the party to confront the Huge spider in strength and eliminate it before sending some after the 3 escaping orcs.

If the Spider had known Moose was out there, it would have been more dangerous. I was happy Ghân thought to use the Faerie Fire, he learned something important about these offspring of Shelob, the last child of Ungoliant.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/888 "2008-04-25T20:05:12Z")

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More talking animals…

I’m just a simple man from Dale - talking animals are freaky!

> [@What Exit?](#):
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> The spider looks weak. “Please let me live and I will give you my treasure”

Why did I have to be good? Definitely a case of wanting my have my cake and eat it too!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/889 "2008-04-25T20:07:32Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
More talking animals…

I’m just a simple man from Dale - talking animals are freaky!  
Why did I have to be good? Definitely a case of wanting my have my cake and eat it too!  
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Hey, you’re from Dale, you have to know about talking spiders. You may even have met one before as Greenwood is not that far away.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/890 "2008-04-25T22:41:56Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]

Side note: As the ref, I desperately wanted to get this last little bit done. It took longer than I thought. I expected the party to confront the Huge spider in strength and eliminate it before sending some after the 3 escaping orcs.

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Aha! The treasure will therefore be easily found!

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/891 "2008-04-27T18:58:15Z")

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Apologies to all for being absent from the thread. Life got a bit hectic, not to mention the London dope fest. 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/892 "2008-04-27T20:23:55Z")

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]  
Apologies to all for being absent from the thread. Life got a bit hectic, not to mention the London dope fest. 🙂  
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I hope it was fun. I always enjoy the dopefests.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/893 "2008-04-28T13:02:57Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Hey, you’re from Dale, you have to know about talking spiders. You may even have met one before as Greenwood is not that far away.  
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I’ve heard _of_ talking spiders. I just never believed it. The veterans were always playing jokes on the newbs. Plus, I think I mentioned earlier, I had avoided bug hunts during my stint. Mostly goblins and small wargs, some orcs, only a couple of Uruk-hai.

I’m really green

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/894 "2008-04-29T10:30:58Z")

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Ghân is feeling a bit sad, since the mission appears to be to kill all evil, even if it surrenders.  
No doubt once we’ve finished the current orc opponents, we need to track down every baby spider and squash them.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/895 "2008-04-29T15:05:50Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Ghân is feeling a bit sad, since the mission appears to be to kill all evil, even if it surrenders.  
No doubt once we’ve finished the current orc opponents, we need to track down every baby spider and squash them.  
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Personally Gwaelur doesn’t care about the spiders. He would be just as happy to leave them be and go after more orcs, maybe take down an HK or two.

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/896 "2008-04-29T16:32:00Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Personally Gwaelur doesn’t care about the spiders. He would be just as happy to leave them be and go after more orcs, maybe take down an HK or two.  
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Well if the party can’t make a deal with one crippled spider, we presumably can’t allow a hundred small ones to grow up…

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/897 "2008-05-01T02:33:48Z")

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Gentlemen,

I will be out of town with no internet access until Sunday night/Monday morning. Try not to miss me too much.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/898 "2008-05-01T04:26:22Z")

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On this day in TA 3019, Elessar was crowned in Minas Tirith, beginning his long and blessed reign. Long live the King!

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/899 "2008-05-02T15:05:15Z")

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Hey all, just wanted to let everyone know that I am leaving for vacation this evening. I will be around for the next 8 hours or so, but after that I am going to (likely) be without any sort of net connection until a week from Monday.

If anyone wants to play Gwaelur in my absense that is fine with me. Let me know and I will send you his sheet, otherwise I trust What Exit? to handle him.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/900 "2008-05-02T15:33:55Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Hey all, just wanted to let everyone know that I am leaving for vacation this evening. I will be around for the next 8 hours or so, but after that I am going to (likely) be without any sort of net connection until a week from Monday.

If anyone wants to play Gwaelur in my absense that is fine with me. Let me know and I will send you his sheet, otherwise I trust What Exit? to handle him.  
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Have fun and no problem. I think you have the easiest character to keep alive.

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