# D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Tags:** middle-earth-game\
**Created:** [February 26, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276 "2008-02-26T20:17:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1481 "2009-02-01T20:39:56Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> On an unrelated note, I am going on vacation tomorrow for the week. I should have internet access for most of it (certainly for the 2nd half of the week), but my posting will be spotty. I’ll do my best to keep up, but don’t wait for me.

Have a good trip!

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1482 "2009-02-02T14:19:24Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> There should have been more than one player in negatives so far. The tabletop game has had several go negative and two that were hurt so badly that they needed recuperation time in Rivendell and Minas Tirith respectively.

I’m suddenly so glad for the armour upgrade I recently got.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1483 "2009-02-05T15:03:11Z")

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> [@Middle Earth FA63 D&D Game: Fifth Adventure - War in Goblin Gate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-fifth-adventure-war-in-goblin-gate/475898/837):
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> The knight-errant is, as I see it, always aggressive but hardly ever rash. When foes are at hand, his first instinct is always to attack, but he is no berserker. He has every intention of living to a ripe old age and no desire to throw his life away, unless there were no other way to save the one he loves.
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> Five goblins would not unduly endanger the party and would be that many fewer to slay on the morrow.

Mulligan would be glad to hear it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1484 "2009-02-10T18:20:47Z")

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> [@CatInASuit](#):
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> Mulligan would be glad to hear it. 🙂

So now you have! 😉

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1485 "2009-02-13T15:48:06Z")

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Hey all, I am going away for a long weekend and will be back Tuesday. I may be able to post from my phone, I may not. In the meantime I trust What Exit? to play Gwaelur if necessary.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1486 "2009-02-13T16:13:41Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Hey all, I am going away for a long weekend and will be back Tuesday. I may be able to post from my phone, I may not. In the meantime I trust What Exit? to play Gwaelur if necessary.

Have fun. I think both Dwarves should stay put for now anyway. The rest of the day is likely to be about tall folk that can and will ride quick. I’m sure you’ll be back before we get to day two of the War in Goblin Gate.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1487 "2009-02-19T22:18:38Z")

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A small exchange occurred between \*\*Glee \*\*and I today that made me think to post here.

I welcome player input into the development of their characters and where they are headed. This could be like the subplot of Thoroncir and Gilraen or where I modify rules for game play in Middle-Earth and on the Dope.

The herb system I use in the table top game is too cumbersome for on-line and Glee and I worked out a simple and effective replacement. Today we reworked the **Call Woodland Beings** to work in Middle-Earth. It now summons exceptional animals instead of Centaurs and the ilk.

Where possible, use this thread, PMs and Email to work with me to where you would like to see your character develop.

As I just PM’d to **Glee** ,

> [@](#):
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> … I think the game works better with player input. Elendil’s Heir has especially been doing this with the subplot of Thoroncir and Gilraen. I have a vague long range plan but it is extremely flexible and the two most important parts of this game is that we all have fun and that it still feels like Middle-Earth.
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> We are building in the Quest mode by making the players be involved with the mover and shaker’s of the World. At this point the party members would start being seeing and rising up to join those ranks.

Question:

Does anyone else start to think of the players by their character names instead of their username? (I find myself doing that often.)

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1488 "2009-02-19T22:23:33Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Question:
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> Does anyone else start to think of the players by their character names instead of their username? (I find myself doing that often.)

Depending on the player, yes. Elendil’s Heir/Thoroncir are the ones that I do this with the most. There have been a few times when I have started to respond to something EH has said in an unrelated thread by calling him Thoroncir.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1489 "2009-02-19T22:53:06Z")

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I can’t for the life of me keep **CatInASuit** and Mulligan straight between **Rogue Racer** and Elfstan. Just can’t seem to get the distinction to stick in my mind. **Elendil’s Heir** , for some reason, seems as though the player should be an Elf in my mind, though I’m keeping that straighter lately. **ShadowFacts** is easy; it’s a great name for a Rohirric Paladin.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1490 "2009-02-24T13:49:36Z")

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Sorry for the delay. The last two days were a little crazy. We had no heat since early Sunday morning and needed an oil delivery\* and then a manual priming of the oil pump to get it back. I was tending the small wood stove we have through Sunday night (early Monday AM) and had only about 3 hours sleep. Everything is back to normal now and I will update the game thread shortly with the first signs of those that you seek to clear.

- The sad part is we are suppose to have auto delivery. I also had to change out the nozzle and filter on Sunday. Both things basically new to me. To prime the oil pump I had to stop and pick up a gallon can of Kerosene so I could load the filter container and give the pump a local supply to build up the flow from the main tank. This took two tries of course. It was very pleasant to have the house back to normal this morning.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1491 "2009-02-24T16:14:05Z")

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Couple of my friends recently discovered that their landlord had not refilled their oil tank over the summer, and ran out when it was about -6 (-20 for you **Glee** ) for a week. Their house got so cold they unplugged their refrigerator because it was cold enough in the kitchen to freeze water in glasses and turn olive oil into sludge. Bad times!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1492 "2009-02-28T03:38:24Z")

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Just got our PBS guide for March. Ian McKellen will star in the title role in a broadcast of Shakespeare’s _King Lear_. It’ll air here on March 25 from 8-11pm; check your local listings.

More details:

> **[Ian McKellen’s King Lear to Be Shown on TV, DVD - TheaterMania.com](https://www.theatermania.com/new-york/news/01-2008/ian-mckellens-king-lear-to-be-shown-on-tv-dvd_12573.html/)**
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> The RSC's recent production of William Shakespeare's King Lear, directed by Trevor Nunn and with Ian McKellen in the title role, is being filmed for HD TV. It will be broadcast on England's BBC Channel 4 in December, as well as being broadcast on PBS...

But this might, um, be disappointing for some fans:

> **[HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News](https://www.huffpost.com/?err_code=404&err_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2009%2F01%2F08%2Fian-mckellens-king-lear-f_n_156170.html)**
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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1493 "2009-02-28T04:35:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Just got our PBS guide for March. Ian McKellen will star in the title role in a broadcast of Shakespeare’s _King Lear_. It’ll air here on March 25 from 8-11pm; check your local listings.
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> More details:  
> [Ian McKellen’s King Lear to Be Shown on TV, DVD - TheaterMania.com](http://www.theatermania.com/new-york/news/01-2008/ian-mckellens-king-lear-to-be-shown-on-tv-dvd_12573.html)
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> But this might, um, be disappointing for some fans:  
> [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/ian-mckellens-king-lear-f\_n\_156170.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/ian-mckellens-king-lear-f_n_156170.html)

Perfect role for him - I’ve got to check that out. Thanks for the heads up.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1494 "2009-02-28T05:14:10Z")

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He opened that show at least two years ago- a friend of mine flew to England for the weekend to see it. She said it was wonderful.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1495 "2009-03-02T16:40:18Z")

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A question about Gwaellur’s helm.

Since Gwaellur has been paralyzed, would it be possible (or even proper) for Bitur to grab the helm and use it temporarily for our current fight since if there’s a chance it could be recharged (though, Gilraen is clearly otherwise occupied, and with a more important matter) while he wears it it could come in useful since we probably won’t be able to help gwaellur much until things settle down?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1496 "2009-03-02T16:56:40Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> A question about Gwaellur’s helm.
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> Since Gwaellur has been paralyzed, would it be possible (or even proper) for Bitur to grab the helm and use it temporarily for our current fight since if there’s a chance it could be recharged (though, Gilraen is clearly otherwise occupied, and with a more important matter) while he wears it it could come in useful since we probably won’t be able to help gwaellur much until things settle down?

> [@](#):
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> Rilthol – Helm of Brilliance is an ancient helm made by the Dwarves of Belegost it will aid a brave Dwarf. +2 Protection, Gives saves vs. Undead drains as Paralysis (no bonus); Enhances Dwarven abilities and vision. So see in dark 240’1; Will light up for up to 1hr like a torch. Once per day will Light Blast doing 6d6 damage to undead in 30’r. Recharge requires a 2nd level Light spell or 8 hrs in sunlight.

The blast has been used but the other abilities would help. I can’t speak to if Gwaelur would approve or be upset. Dwarves are typically proud but also fairly practical in combat. I don’t think the other Dwarves would think less of you but I open the question to the other Tolkien fans too.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1497 "2009-03-02T17:08:55Z")

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Speaking as Gwaelur, I wouldn’t have a problem with Bitur using the helm, but might have a problem with someone else messing with it.

I do not know if Bitur would know this or not (stupid freeze keeping me from posting in the game thread proper just as things are getting dangerous. I will _so_ kill those undead if I wake up. :mad: 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1498 "2009-03-02T17:39:21Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> The blast has been used but the other abilities would help. I can’t speak to if Gwaelur would approve or be upset. Dwarves are typically proud but also fairly practical in combat. I don’t think the other Dwarves would think less of you but I open the question to the other Tolkien fans too.

All right, I’ll take the helm for now then, figuring Gwaellur would understand and knowing that if our situations were reversed, I would have no issues with him doing the same.

After all, if the party doesn’t survive, the helm won’t be of much use to anyone at that point.

If Gwaellur has a problem with the action, (which though I as a player now know he won’t, but Bitur as a character would not), Bitur will cross that bridge when it he comes to it. He’s managed to talk down much worse things in his life than a possibly annoyed fellow dwarf.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1499 "2009-03-16T21:06:40Z")

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I know it was a couple of days ago so I am not going to post this to the main thread but:

> [@Middle Earth FA63 D&D Game: Fifth Adventure - War in Goblin Gate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/middle-earth-fa63-d-d-game-fifth-adventure-war-in-goblin-gate/475898/1297):
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> Bitur’s Ax strikes deep in the foes left knee and Gwaelur’s ax cleaves off the troll’s right hand at the wrist.
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> A fast strike from Gwaelur drops the troll forward; Thoroncir dances back and drives Cirist through the back of the troll’s head. He twitches twice and dies.

That may have been the coolest thing my character has done in any of these adventures. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/d-d-on-the-straight-dope-setup-thread-in-middle-earth-fa63/439276/1500 "2009-03-17T16:10:02Z")

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We are certainly much obliged to you, sir!

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