# daddy long legs...a spider???

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 4, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daddy-long-legs-a-spider/263070 "2004-09-04T03:22:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daddy-long-legs-a-spider/263070/21 "2004-09-05T00:50:18Z")

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> [@Fatwater Fewl](#):
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> Just like **Johnny L.A.** , we here in eastern Canada know the [Pholcus phalangioides](http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/essays/pholcus/pholcus_phalangioides.html) spider as the daddy-longlegs. I’ve never seen a harvestman.

I see lots of harvestmen (harvestmans??) around my house. They are what I have always known as daddy long legs.

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daddy-long-legs-a-spider/263070/22 "2004-09-05T03:51:10Z")

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So which is the model for that recent sci fi movie?

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daddy-long-legs-a-spider/263070/23 "2004-09-05T04:24:28Z")

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Around here, what we call Daddy-Longlegs is a little grey spider. It appears to be a true spider, not a harvestman, altho’ I confess that I’ve never gotten close enough for a good look. After reading the first link, it’s probably a _Pholcus phalangioides._

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2004, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daddy-long-legs-a-spider/263070/24 "2004-09-05T07:50:02Z")

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Wanna hear something interesting? Tarantulas are considered by some scientists not to be spiders. It’s still under debate, but at this time the order \*Araneae \*has been divided into three “suborders”: [

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> ]([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider)) . . . the \*Mygalomorphae \*(the primitive spiders), the \*Araneomorphae \*(the modern spiders) and the _Mesothelae_, which contains the Family Liphistiidae, rarely seen burrowing spiders from Asia. . . .

Tarantulas are _Mygalomorphs_. They’re distinguished from “modern spiders” by the orientation of their fangs: _Mygalomorphs_’ fangs point downward, and are not jointed: they must raise up on their feet and stab their whole body downward to “bite.” Modern spiders’ fangs are pincerlike, and move horizonally. I suspect that these “suborders” are the first step toward declaring them three different orders.

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