# DADT, the UCMJ and transsexuals

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 16, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dadt-the-ucmj-and-transsexuals/557369 "2010-10-16T19:37:19Z")\
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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> I thought once you get the big operation you are legally the new sex. Is this not the case?
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> If not I feel dumb for assuming that.

No. For example, Kansas does not recognize transsexualism as changing sex/gender (according to the Supreme Court). Ironically, an M2F who had surgery and presented as a woman could legally marry another woman.

[http://www.transgenderlaw.org/cases/karelease.htm](http://www.transgenderlaw.org/cases/karelease.htm)

However, the tactic taken by Kansas has been instead to harass and arrest transsexuals, such as this notorious (well, around here) case: [http://www.kcavp.org/site/about-us/news/kcavp-condemns-prosecution-transsexual-leavenworth-county-kansas/](http://www.kcavp.org/site/about-us/news/kcavp-condemns-prosecution-transsexual-leavenworth-county-kansas/)

Transsexuals and transgendered persons are one of the last groups that it’s still “cool” to mock, deride, discriminate against, harass, bring specious and unnecessary legal action against, attack, batter, and kill. Even the lesbian and gay community is at best suspicious and at worst openly hostile toward those embarrassing “T’s.” They can and should **never** assume that they would be free from prosecution in the context of the military or civil court system unless and until there is a major Supreme Court reversal or a Constitutional Amendment (or a President is elected who cares about all letters of the LGBT, unlike our current one or any of the prior ones).

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