# Daily Show 03/15/06
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [March 16, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604 "2006-03-16T15:38:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/1 "2006-03-16T15:38:55Z")
Last night Jon ran a clip of Ed Helms going through “police foot persuit simulation” that was supposed be from Monday’s show. He accused another anchor of steeling their bit. Did anyone see that Monday’s episode? Did they really air it then?
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### Author:  [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/2 "2006-03-16T16:04:09Z")
I don’t normally watch the Daily show, but last night’s show actually _pissed me off_…
specifically the captive-hunt segment, the _only_ thing i found amusing was the “how do i get infinite ammo” quip, after that, the “reporter’s” segment just made me angrier and angrier…
that “reporter” should _not_ be handed any form of firearm, he broke _EVERY_ rule of safe and responsible firearm handling, he did not keep the muzzle pointed downrange, he did not even keep an eye out for _where_ the muzzle was pointing, when he was in the Jeep, hanging out the window, waving the shotgun around in an irresponsible manner as the Jeep drove over rough terrain, he had his _FINGER ON THE TRIGGER_ the WHOLE TIME, he pointed the shotgun at the camera crew, at his fellow hunters, at anything he felt like
this idiot obviously did _not_ have the maturity level neccecary to safely handle a firearm, the whole time he was waving the gun around i was expecting an accidental discharge, and the Cheney-esque “hunting accident” was in _very_ poor taste, i know it was meant to be a joke (the whole report was), but the joke would have worked equally as well if the “reporter” simply followed safe firearm handling rules, after all, the report was mainly about how stupid “canned hunts” are (and i agree that “canned hunts” are incredibly stupid)
i have no problem with conventional hunting though
this report, however, simply glamorizes unsafe firearm handling and reinforces the notion that guns are “toys”, dangerous toys, yes, but still toys, and _NOTHING_ could be further from the truth, firearms are _NOT_ toys, they’re tools, tools that need to be handled with respect due to the inherent danger involved in their use
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### Author:  [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/3 "2006-03-16T16:17:06Z")
> [@emacknight](#):
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> Did anyone see that Monday’s episode? Did they really air it then?
I didn’t see Monday’s episode, but I saw last nights and I’m going to go ahead and say ‘no’. It was a little too spot-on with the CNN piece, right down to the wink at the beginning. They just used the “we got copied” angle as a mechanism to rip on the CNN guy. And it was a funny way to go about it.
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/4 "2006-03-16T16:46:17Z")
I love the Daily Show but last night the segments all fell flat.
The Interview was slightly humorous but that was about it.
Jim
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/5 "2006-03-16T16:55:29Z")
> [@MacTech](#):
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> this idiot obviously did _not_ have the maturity level neccecary to safely handle a firearm
That was the whole point of the sketch. How does that glamorize unsafe firearm use? He looked like an idiot the entire time, belittling himself and that kind of hunting. And not that we’ll ever know, but I’d bet money it was never loaded. Even if he was really that stupid, somebody with him would have said “if you’re going to mess around with it like that, keep it empty.”
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/6 "2006-03-16T17:00:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> That was the whole point of the sketch. How does that glamorize unsafe firearm use? He looked like an idiot the entire time, belittling himself and that kind of hunting. And not that we’ll ever know, but I’d bet money it was never loaded. Even if he was really that stupid, somebody with him would have said “if you’re going to mess around with it like that, keep it empty.”
I don’t think the problem was with MacTech failing to view it as a humorous skit, I think the lack of humor in it prevented him from not taking it seriously. 😉
Jim
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/7 "2006-03-16T17:02:22Z")
Maybe so. And it wasn’t particularly funny. Did you hear the audience groan when the hunter shot the quail, by the way?
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/8 "2006-03-16T17:06:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> Maybe so. And it wasn’t particularly funny. Did you hear the audience groan when the hunter shot the quail, by the way?
Yes, I groaned with them. 😉
But Nate Cordry just isn’t funny so far. He might be the Horatio Sans of the Daily Show.
Jim
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### Author:  [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/9 "2006-03-16T17:36:20Z")
> [@MacTech](#):
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> i know it was meant to be a joke
I’m not so sure you do.
And that wasn’t a quail they shot; they’re about half that size. I believe it was a pheasant. The audience may have groaned, but I’m glad they didn’t wuss out like a lot of shows and cut away. It really drove home how ridiculous canned hunts are (and I say that as a hunter myself).
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### Author:  [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/10 "2006-03-16T17:40:24Z")
I just rewatched Monday’s episode and the official answer is ‘no,’ that clip wasn’t shown.
As for the quail hunt? Pure comedic gold. When Nate said, “I’ll take 12 of the quail, and the dog.”
“You’re not shooting the dog.”
“I bet Cheney got to shoot the dog.”
I think the whole bit very appropriately mocked the sh\*t out of canned hunting.
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### Author:  [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/11 "2006-03-16T17:56:03Z")
As for using the gun like a toy, isn’t that pretty much what canned hunting does? It removes everything from hunting except the video-game aspect, and you’re using the gun as nothing more than a light gun shooting at a screen.
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### Author:  [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/12 "2006-03-16T20:34:05Z")
I did like the humor mocking the stupidity of canned hunts, the report _did_ present that well, however, as someone who has grown up around firearms and had the importance of _safe_ handling drilled into me from the time i was able to hold my first BB gun, i did _not_ see any humor in the total disregard of safe firearm handling rules
if the reporter had handled the shotgun safely, it wouldn’t have changed the overall message or humor of the report
besides, even if the firearm _was_ unloaded, he was breaking the primary rules of safe handling, “treat every gun as if it’s loaded”, “keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction at all times”, “don’t rely on the safety mechanism” and “never point a firearm at anything you’re not willing to destroy”
he broke _every_ one of them
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### Author:  [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/13 "2006-03-16T20:43:57Z")
[lets see how many rules he broke…](http://www.firearmsid.com/A_fasafety.htm)
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/14 "2006-03-16T20:49:50Z")
> [@MacTech](#):
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> as someone who has grown up around firearms and had the importance of _safe_ handling drilled into me from the time i was able to hold my first BB gun, i did _not_ see any humor in the total disregard of safe firearm handling rules
That’s too bad, because there was humor in it and it was decent. Gun safety being important doesn’t make jokes about gun safety irresponsible or unfunny.
You know what this thread needs? A The More You Know-style public service ad. “We all had a good laugh at that Daily Show report, but gun safety is no joke. Hi, I’m Kiefer Sutherland…”
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### Author:  [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/15 "2006-03-16T21:16:26Z")
Maybe that was the point of it. He broke all those rules, as do some hunters on a regular basis. Afterall, if ALL hunters were safe with their weapons ALL the time, TDS wouldn’t have had an incident to spoof.
I wouldn’t read too much into it–it’s a skit on a comedy show. If they do a bit about hospitals, I’m not going to get upset if they don’t show every detail accurately.
I also think that Nate Coddry is clueless when it comes to guns–but then again, so am I. My idea of gun safety? Don’t touch it unless you know what to do with it.
But I digress… 🙂
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/16 "2006-03-16T21:49:31Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I also think that Nate Coddry is clueless when it comes to guns…
Weren’t you paying attention? He beat _Contra_ on the Nintendo in 1989.
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### Author:  [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/17 "2006-03-16T21:49:36Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> “We all had a good laugh at that Daily Show report, but gun safety is no joke. Hi, I’m **Kiefer Sutherland** …”
You owe me a new keyboard, that was hilarious!
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### Author:  [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/18 "2006-03-16T22:12:00Z")
Sorry, Mac, gonna hafta side with “you just didn’t get it” crowd.
Nate quite obviously was behaving in an exaggeratedly irresponsible manner to suggest that CHENEY behaved irresponsibly; that such irresponsibility is LIKELY in such situations because any doofus with a checkbook can go out and pretend to hunt; that proper hunting procedure is neither expected nor enforced.
Nate very clearly broke as many rules as possible, intentionally, which is what made that “report” work. He was “portraying” a retard, basically; anyone who would ask if he could shoot a peasant or a dog would obviously not be all that up on hunting rules. The kind of retard that such canned hunt outfits are exploiting. That they’re more interested in the checkbook than in the rules of hunting was the entire point.
It think it was brilliant.
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### Author:  [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/19 "2006-03-16T23:53:33Z")
> [@lissener](#):
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> anyone who would ask if he could shoot a **peasant**
Help, Help, i’m being repressed!😉
nice freudian keyboard slip, **Lissener** , please tell me it was intentional? 😉
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### Author:  [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-03-15-06/348604/20 "2006-03-16T23:59:59Z")
My reading is that Mac gets the intent of the joke, but thinks that, since in order to _appear_ to handle the gun incompetently, Nate had to _actually_ handle it dangerously, the joke simply isn’t funny.
To Mac, watching the segment would be like you and me watching a guy who, _for laughs_, pretends to be an incompetent driver by swerving wildly and dangerously all over a busy highway. We would get the joke–and we wouldn’t think it funny at all. We would merely be alarmed.
-FrL-
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