# Daily Show 8/2/04

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 3, 2004, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083 "2004-08-03T03:39:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/41 "2004-08-04T12:24:40Z")

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At least then they wouldn’t be co-opting the news media in spreading beneficial disnformation.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/42 "2004-08-04T14:26:07Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> Yeah. He reminded me of a parent who knew his kid was lying. “Are you sure you want to say that? Really?” He gave him every chance to back off to a more respectable position, but the dude just wouldn’t take the hint.

Right. That was just a beauty.

Part of the ongoing themes with the Daily Show is precisely the idea that the average viewer/voter generally gets either of these versions of the info:

(a) a dumbed-down, oversimplified soundbite with no real attribution; or

(b) and obfuscatingly overnuanced explanation with no real conclusion as to _what_ does the politico stand for…

… and both are annoying distractions from trying to find out if what was said is or is not true.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/43 "2004-08-04T19:03:34Z")

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Darn it! I can find a transcript of the Hewitt interview. Just lots and lots of pictures…

Oh, right. Could somebody help me out? I watched the interview and I don’t remember Jon being that mean.

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**Author:** ![cmason32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@cmason32](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmason32)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/44 "2004-08-04T19:42:03Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Then they’d just have press conferences, and only subject themselves to questions there, and avoid actual interviews.

Politicians not going on TV? Come on, they might try that for a while but their need to get their message across would eventually take priority.

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**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/45 "2004-08-04T19:48:30Z")

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Damn right, _The Daily Show_ has a bias. As Jon Steward has said, he’s biased against stupidity.

When RNC chairman Ed Gillespie comes on the _Daily_, the dude can hold his own against Jon. You can see the mutual respect they have for one another’s intelligence, and while they disagree, it’s usually very respectful and friendly, 'cause Ed doesn’t try to shovel shit in Jon’s house.

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**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2004, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/46 "2004-08-04T19:50:36Z")

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And, obviously, Jon Stewar **t** would mop the floor with my intellectually deficient ass. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/47 "2004-08-05T00:49:18Z")

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… but if he _mopped the floor_ with your _ass_, wouldn’t he get _shit_ in his _house_? I don’t understand kids today with their slang and their rock and roll hops.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/48 "2004-08-05T01:42:24Z")

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You can see the pertinent video footage yourself at [http://www.comedycentral.com/tv\_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/](http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/) although there seems to be some funny way you have to set up the website with regards to your player preferences. Man, I didn’t know it was going to be that _obvious_. It’s a sad day when the comedy network has to be the one to stand up for real journalism.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/49 "2004-08-05T03:23:03Z")

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So, when was the last time Jon Stewart mopped the floor with an ass who happens to be a Democrat? It’s not like there is a lack of idiots on that side, either.

He threw nothing but softballs to Michael Moore, for example.

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**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/50 "2004-08-05T04:53:37Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Not to hijack the thread, but when did Franken ever _denied_ having a team of students do research for his last book?
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> Heck, **Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them** even has a group photo of “Team Franken,” along with a writeup of each member. That’s the worst-kept secret Al’s ever kept. 😉

He didn’t deny it. He just didn’t mention it at the beginning of the interview although he did mention he was teaching while he was writing it. Stewart picked up on that and ran with it, and Franken playd along by just giving minimal and seemingly reluctant bits of information as Stewart questioned him. I don’t think it was set up, but Franken did an excellent job of acting like he was being forced to admit something that he didn’t want to admit.

So, in retrospect, this example wasn’t really a good one to show that Stewart will challenge Dems, but it does show that Franken is faster on his feet than Bonilla.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/51 "2004-08-05T07:10:32Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> So, when was the last time Jon Stewart mopped the floor with an ass who happens to be a Democrat? It’s not like there is a lack of idiots on that side, either.
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> He threw nothing but softballs to Michael Moore, for example.

Hmmph. I just watched the [clip](http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_sho...withjonstewart/), and it didn’t seem like Stewart really lit into the guy very much. John certainly had plenty of ammunition, but… nothing much happened.

Somebody please tell me how Stewart kicked Bonilla verbally in the balls. Am I missing something?

Did you watch the clip, **Sam**? My take was “big whoop” – did I witness a partisan attack but miss the punchline? Assuming you watched the video (link above) do you really feel this was a takedown/assault/whatever? I thought it was weak (on Stewart’s part) at best and not a very good interview takedown; even the interviewee was chortling.

In any case, **Sam** , I should hope JS treats liberal guests more forcefully. This was just soft-touch journalism, IMHO. JS, please go kick some butt. Choose one, there are plenty on any side of any issue to go around.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/52 "2004-08-05T15:07:58Z")

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Don’t worry, **Sam** , there are _right_-wing comedy fake-news interview shows, too. O’Reilly’s is a perfect example. But you’re not protesting his uniformly soft treatment of Republicans, are you?

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**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2004, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daily-show-8-2-04/258083/53 "2004-08-05T17:41:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Don’t worry, **Sam** , there are _right_-wing comedy fake-news interview shows, too. O’Reilly’s is a perfect example.

::rimshot:: 😃

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