# Damien? Is that you? Or: would you like a side of thorazine with that chocolate milk? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 30, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565 "2005-10-30T05:55:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/41 "2005-10-31T15:46:08Z")
I’m at a loss for words. If I had said something like that to my parents at age 9, I would have been hung upside down in the closet and not let out until I was 21. Or I would have had a _long_ session with my dad’s belt. I’m not sure which would have been worse. That kid is off the rails and Mom needs to do some serious discipling on his stupid young ass. ---
**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/42 "2005-10-31T17:42:49Z")
Unbelievable! There is NO way any of my kids would have gotten away with this. The X-Box would be trashed and the kid’s privileges to ANYTHING would have been revoked, right then and there! On the other hand, my kids wouldn’t try this crap. They do have boundaries, and while, like most kids, they’ll try to step over them once in awhile, they have never attempted anything on this scale. We do not allow the kids to swear in the house; they are not even allowed to say “crap” or “that sucks”. I am not naive enough to believe that they aren’t cussing when they’re not in my presence, but the respect for my and my husband’s authority is implicit in that they do not act or speak the way this nine year old demon did. Finally, my son (almost 13) and my daughter (almost 16) have played violent video games. They’ve played them on-line too. My kids know the difference between reality and fantasy and it was explained to them early on. Both of the kids have been taught what is acceptable, and what is not acceptable. I don’t think exposure to violent games or films=violent person. I receive continuous comments and compliments about my son’s compassion and sensibility. I receive these comments from teachers, friends, etc. He is looked up to as a mentor and a diplomat. The same goes for my daughter. In fact, for the most part she has grown out of the games (except for WoW). So, while they were “exposed” to violent games or films, we explained the behavior depicted in those games or films was not acceptable and would never be acceptable in real life. That child in this clip is in for one ugly life lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/43 "2005-10-31T17:49:22Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If I had said something like that to my parents at age 9, I would have been hung upside down in the closet and not let out until I was 21. Or I would have had a _long_ session with my dad’s belt. I’m not sure which would have been worse. See, everybody keeps saying stuff like that, but the fact that you **knew** that’s what would happen means that it never would have **gotten** to that point! Also, disregard what I said earlier about the mom possibly counting to herself, not as a warning to Damien. She’s counting down, not up, so presumably she’s counting down until pulling the plug. Except…she never **did anything**! What’s the use of letting the kid know he’s gone too far, if he just gets to go farther? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/44 "2005-10-31T18:09:22Z")
Just based on the bit I heard, she sounds like one of those parents who half-ass it and then throw up their hands and say, “see? I can’t do anything with the boy”–and off they go to counselling (which won’t work for kids until and unless the lessons learned are reinforced at home etc). Actually, most parents like her don’t even bother with the attempt at counselling. parenting is a job (and also a privilege). There are plenty of days where I would like to throw in the towel, too. But you can’t–and your efforts do pay off. this woman will reap what she sowed. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/45 "2005-10-31T22:07:20Z")
I can see where you’d get the impression that the kid is spoiled and that the mother isn’t trying. But when I heard the last 45 seconds or so when he starts swearing, he started using an adult “script.” I wonder if there’s an older male who talks that way to her (and that’s where the kid picked up the attitude and language), and she won’t stand up to him or her son. Vlad/Igor ---
**Author:** ![Nilor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@Nilor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nilor)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/46 "2005-11-01T05:38:35Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m joking. Where did this “don’t try to enact laws” bit come from? This is a personal decision for parents–although I will say that I would rather see violence toned down and us not be so prudish (as a film going public). Ah! I can answer that…these two quotes: > [@](#): > > kid should not be playing this game. Not at age 9. Yeah, so you got to–so what. There is a reason those games are marked with categories like movies–mom was dead wrong to buy it for him, period and > [@](#): > > 9 is way too young for that type of game. Kids lack perspective and they also tend to blur fantasy and reality. I don’t think 9 year olds should be an R rated films, either Sounded dangerously close (to me) to implying that parents should not be allowed to decide what their children do. I see that was not your intention, though, so it’s all good 😉 > [@Vlad/Igor](#): > > I can see where you’d get the impression that the kid is spoiled and that the mother isn’t trying. But when I heard the last 45 seconds or so when he starts swearing, he started using an adult “script.” I wonder if there’s an older male who talks that way to her (and that’s where the kid picked up the attitude and language), and she won’t stand up to him or her son. > > Vlad/Igor Just to present an alternative theory: He may have picked it up from the other people talking in the game…That kind of language isn’t _common_, but it also isn’t unheard of when voice chat is involved. (swearing alone, though, is downright common) ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/47 "2005-11-01T06:20:48Z")
Heck, he might’ve picked it up from kids at school. The words “bullshit” “bitch” and “motherfucker” are hardly uncommon, especially among kids who get an anti-authority thrill out of doing something forbidden. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/48 "2005-11-01T07:24:36Z")
Holy crap! So that’s what Cartman does in hie spare time. If I were that mother, forget about throwing out/trashing the X-box. I’d keep it for myself, hide it in a locked box when I wasn’t using it, and play it in front of him when I was. Then slap the kid so hard his great grandchildren would turn red. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/49 "2005-11-01T07:48:08Z")
“Get in the kitchen and make me some _pie_” does indeed seem like it could’ve come outa that kid’s mouth. (And no, I am not speculating that this happened “because” of South Park.) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/50 "2005-11-01T21:51:55Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > “Get in the kitchen and make me some _pie_” does indeed seem like it could’ve come outa that kid’s mouth. > > (And no, I am not speculating that this happened “because” of South Park.) More like, kids like this one were the inspiration for Cartman? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565/51 "2005-11-01T22:22:57Z")
Indeed. Now I think we’ve put the cart firmly behind the horse. A kid who would speak to his mother like that hardly needs TV to tell him to, and a kid who wouldn’t speak to his mother like that isn’t going to start just because he sees it on TV. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damien-is-that-you-or-would-you-like-a-side-of-thorazine-with-that-chocolate-milk/328565.md?page=2)