That puts this in an interesting light.
Well, there’s this.
This is patently absurd.
It really, really isn’t.
…No, Anne Coulter is a right-wing retard on the same line as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. I’d call her the right-wing Michael Moore, but then again Moore is at least right some of the time. If you think she’s a reliable source, then you are not paying attention.
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/ann_coulters_lies.php
http://slannder.homestead.com/
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=337389 <- Especially indicative of just how stupid this bitch is
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnyquotes/a/anncoulter.htm <- Proof that she’s fucking crazy
Coulter is insane. She is a partisan right-wing hack with a very poor grasp on reality, science, how the world works, and the like. She is not worth taking seriously. Those corporations she writes for? Either her writings there are considerably different from her books, this article, and anything else of hers I’ve read, or she writes for a site whose “civic responsibility” is in the same category of that of Conservapedia and Answers In Genesis. And as I said: using her as a source on a topic like this is like using Michael Moore: sure, maybe you can’t immediately prove that he’s a serial liar, but you can guarantee that his view on the subject will not, by any stretch of the imagination, be balanced.
No, it really, really is. The notion that the US is within even a couple of orders of magnitude of North Korea in terms of human rights, is ridiculous. Amnesty International’s implication that this is the case because we execute the clearly, obviously, blatantly guilty is a severe case of crying “Wolf”.
Regards,
Shodan
She certainly has a history of strawmanning the opposition.
In Slander, for instance, she says of the Bush tax cuts something like, “The Democrat’s argument against Bush’s tax cut was to demand to know how exactly it would help anyone, but it’s obvious: People would have more money. That’s an improvement right there. More money will give people more money. What am I missing?”
Now, I am a fan of the tax cuts. But her statement ignores several cogent objections to the policy – not the least of which is that by cutting taxes, you either run a deficit or cut services, and if you cut services, then people lost money or its equivalent in services. That was the debate, not the simplistic assertion that Democrats couldn’t understand that tax cuts gave more spending money to people who pay taxes.
And I can think of deliberate lies. In Slander again, Coulter skewers Gloria Steinem for hypocrisy, claiming she accepted over a million dollars from her then-paramour Mort Zuckerman to keep Ms. Magazine going, and then bragged to Primetime Live that she didn’t even love him.
But the truth is that Zuckerman did not give Steinem or Ms. Magazine the million – he assisted them in obtaining a $700K bank loan and donated about $400K. By deliberately eliminating the fact that the bulk of the money was a loan (repaid by the magazine, by the way) and not even a loan from Zuckerman himself, she lies. And the Primetime Live about not loving Zuckerman was itself out of context, a present statement about a past relationship.
In an effort to show how dismissive the New York Times is to conservative Southerners, Coulter claimed that the paper didn’t cover Dale Earnhardt’s death on page 1. It did.
These are off the top of my head. Undoubtedly there are quite a few more fetching examples.
Here’s a map of the company you’re in. Good job you guys.
Agreed. There’s too much agenda there.
You’ve got your logic backwards. Bad people are bad because they do bad things. Bad things are not bad because bad people do them.
So please, stop trotting out this association fallacy as if it means something, unless you’re willing to tar the International Military Tribunal with the same brush.
Correlation doesn’t equal causation, but in this exchange:
2square4u is plainly correct and FoieGrasIsEvil is plainly not.
You can argue that you’re all right being in that club and like it perfectly fine, but you can’t argue the US isn’t in it.
I thoroughly agree with Bricker here.
Thanks for the heads up. I haven’t read any of Coulter’s books and only a handful of her columns, plus I don’t watch Fox, so my view of Coulter is fairly limited. In the future I will do some checking before taking her at her word. I appreciate the information.
What about, "he’s probably guilty as Cain, but any human endeavor is error-prone, and carrying out a death sentence is beyond the standard humans are capable of because there is no way to rectify it?’
Ah. “I don’t like them, thus I utterly reject that we have anything, up to however not including the fact that we belong to the same species. Regardless of facts showing the opposite”. Got it.
Since you can’t be bothered to open the link, here are the facts:
Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2010
- China
- Iran
- North Korea
- Yemen
- United States
- Saudi Arabia
Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2009
- China
- Iran
- Iraq
- Saudi Arabia
- United States
Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2008
- China
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- United States
- Pakistan
- Iraq
Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2007
- China
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- Pakistan
- United States
Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2006
- China
- Iran
- Pakistan
- Iraq
- Sudan
- United States
Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2005
- China
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- United States
- Pakistan
- Yemen
At a quick glance, four countries regularly occupy the top positions on the lists: China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and USA. Nice buddies you’ve got, mate.
Source: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-penalty-international-perspective
Scream, shout and close your eyes as much as you like. These are the facts, no matter how much you try to deny them.
Or how about, “When a rich person commits an identical act, he can avoid the death penalty by liberal use of high-powered defense strategies; so in a sense he’s being put to death not for being guilty, but for being guilty and poor.”
Yeah, that’s good too.
From the OP:
(bolding mine)
Good enough for ya? This case, where some people - admittedly excluding Georgia’s “justice system” - claim that guilt hasn’t been proven beyond any reasonable doubt, just takes it one step further into the “appaling” territory
Trouble is, the facts don’t show it. With the exception of China those countries have a much smaller population than the U.S., thus the number of executions per capita is much larger.
But really, it doesn’t matter anyway. If you kill someone you deserve to die, no matter how many or how few people are being put to death elsewhere.
You, sir, are presenting opinion as if it were fact. Which it is not.
The fact that the prosecutors and judges maintain his guilt is not new . They almost always do. When guys in jail have been released on the strength of DNA evidence, they generally say they were right anyway. It is hard to admit you jailed someone or put them to death wrongly. For some, it is impossible.
Coulter is a lying harpy bitch, with absolutely no credibility.
I have not denied any facts cited in your reply #53. They are probably correct.
However, they do not address my post #40, which you are either evading
because you know you have no good answer, or are too stupid to understand.
Here it is again with: