# Damn rain!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 26, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515 "2007-06-26T19:38:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/21 "2007-06-27T18:12:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
The Gandalf the Grey of Meteorologists!  
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Proof that meteorology is not a science, but a Black Art.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/22 "2007-06-28T16:24:08Z")

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I’ll take some if **vivalostwages** , **SnakesCatLady** , **Fetchund** , and **Bosda** have any left over…

Please? Pretty please?

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/23 "2007-06-28T16:35:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Fetchund]  
Damn lack of rain!!!

It is ruining my job - I’m a gardener for a municipality - huge gardens that won’t get watered without rain. Rain Gardens, in fact…

They are frying. We are frying.

Please send rain, anybody who has it!  
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I’m trying, I’m trying!! But every time I use my ESP to try and send the rain up your way, it ends up stopping in Oklahoma.

It’s funny. Up until this spring we had been in an extended drought in the Dallas area. Then it started raining. And raining. And raining. It goes to show you just how extreme our drought had been getting when you realize that although many area lakes are well above flood stage, there are _still_ some [showing below normal](http://www.town-mall.net/community/texas_lakes.html)!

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/24 "2007-06-28T17:03:30Z")

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You know it’s bad in Florida when you actually celebrate the start of hurricane season.

There’s a tropical wave heading across our state…not enough to do anything, but maybe it will create enough humidity that some storms can get going.

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**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/25 "2007-06-28T17:09:54Z")

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I wish I could send some rain y’all’s way. Just upstream from us, Marble Falls had _19 inches_ in one evening. The rivers are all closed and flooding, my team can’t get on the water, and the sky is so gloomy and overcast. Sigh…

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/26 "2007-06-28T18:29:51Z")

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[QUOTE=tremorviolet]  
I wish I could send some rain y’all’s way. Just upstream from us, Marble Falls had _19 inches_ in one evening. The rivers are all closed and flooding, my team can’t get on the water, and the sky is so gloomy and overcast. Sigh…  
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And there is rain in the forecast every day for the next 10 days.

I am thinking that it is some sort of a tie in with Evan All Mighty.

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**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/27 "2007-06-28T19:14:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
Why would you need a meteorlogist? First off the Nationa Severe Storms Lab is in Norman. It’s chock full of them. Plus you have Gary England. The Gandalf the Grey of Meteorologists! Heck, even John Stewart played the new ad for him, complaining that some local new weather man had better production values than his show.  
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I wondered the same thing. We’ve got more meteorologists than you can shake a stick at! And that’s not even counting the students and storm chasers.

In fact, I remember being puzzled the first few times I went out-of-state, because the weather reports in other places were so odd. Where was the meteorologist? Where were the radar / cloud / lightning / whatevergadgetthey’vegotnow shots? Where was the WEATHER REPORT?!? (This was in the days before The Weather Channel; I eventually realized that in most parts of the country, you don’t have multiple meteorologists working at each local station.)

Damn, that John Stewart bit cracked us right up! I mean, he is Gary England and all - been doing the weather here since I was a wee tot - but, really. That commercial is a bit much.

On the rain front - it’s raining again today. We’ve got almost our normal annual rainfall (if it hasn’t passed it already). Record-breaking “number of rainy days in a row”, record rain amounts for the month/quarter/YTD.

On the other hand, our lakes are just barely over normal elevation and only a few rivers are full (not flooding, just full), thanks to the drought last year: [NWSsite](http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=OK&prodtype=hydro). The flooding you may be seeing on TV is, so far, just flash floods due to the huge amount of rain coming down in a short period.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/28 "2007-06-28T19:24:35Z")

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On Tuesday night one of the counties south of us declared a state of emergency and they were rescuing people off rooftops. About eleven have been killed so far. [Even more are being evacuated.](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/295200/flooding_consumes_texas.html)

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> Two thousand people along the Brazos River in Granbury were told to evacuate on June 27th. That neighborhood was hit particularly hard by heavy flooding in the afternoon.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Capt\_B.Phart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Capt\_B.Phart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_B.Phart)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/29 "2007-06-28T19:41:54Z")

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Having just been to [Glastonbury](http://music.guardian.co.uk/glastonbury2007/story/0,,2110642,00.html) I say **Fuck The Rain!**

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**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/30 "2007-06-29T14:56:34Z")

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Pretty much.

It’s _glances around, knocks on pressed wood substitute_ okay for the moment where I am. The river is well past its usual banks but at least it’s flowing within ten feet of them. I am no longer seeing the whitecaps that tore down my fence. We have some dead fish back there, though, and we’ve pulled the fence back up I believe.

I hear that it’s going to be mid-July before we stop seeing the rain. Mansfield Dam’s floodgates are open, at least some of them, which is kind of interesting to drive over in the morning.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/31 "2007-06-30T05:49:30Z")

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The trouble in OKC is that it is so flat. The water has no particular direction to go. Get the ground saturated and the rest just sorta piles up and goes willy nilly all over the place.

In Tulsa in 84? or some time, we had 11" in 2 hours on the East side of town out about Garnett and 129th street between Admiral PL. and 31st … I was on high ground and had white caps in my back yard. Near 11th and Garnette, a guy drowned when his car was washed away. this flood was the big impetus needed to get the Joe Creek and Mingo Creek projects started.

I am now in Arkansas on top of a mountain. No more worries about floods. The New Madrid fault is another story…

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2007, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/32 "2007-06-30T09:52:36Z")

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While we’ve had periods of sunshine, I’ve not been able to mow my lawn for the past 2 weeks.

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**Author:** ![DfrntBreign](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DfrntBreign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DfrntBreign)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/33 "2007-06-30T14:52:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Quartz]  
While we’ve had periods of sunshine, I’ve not been able to mow my lawn for the past 2 weeks.  
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I’ll see your two weeks and raise you two. The one day in the last month I thought I might have a chance, the guy came by and put down fertilizer. Which had to be watered in before mowing.

It rained again that night.

And every night and/or day since.

The City of Norman has announced (so I hear) that they are giving people an extra two weeks to comply with a city ordinance requiring grass to be kept under twelve inches tall.

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/34 "2007-06-30T15:25:12Z")

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My husband snuck in between rains yesterday and mowed both the front and back lawns. Our back lawn looks like shit. The areas where there was hardly any grass are getting washed away and if we thought nothing was growing before, it’s even worse now. We bought a bunch of drought-hardy plants to plant around the base of our trees in the backyard, and now I’m not sure they’ll survive all this flooding.

We also lost our electricity yesterday for about three hours, right as we were starting a d20 Apocalypse game. It was neat to play by lamp light, though.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/35 "2007-06-30T16:03:35Z")

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The [CBC](http://www.cbc.ca/photogallery/world/542/) has some nice pictures of flooding world-wide (including a few of the US, near the end). It might make you feel better (then again, it might not).

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**Author:** ![Fetchund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b2d939/32.png) [@Fetchund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fetchund)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/36 "2007-07-01T03:14:47Z")

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[QUOTE=DeadlyAccurate]  
My husband snuck in between rains yesterday and mowed both the front and back lawns. Our back lawn looks like shit. The areas where there was hardly any grass are getting washed away and if we thought nothing was growing before, it’s even worse now.  
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My grass has not grown in a month. It is dormant, due to drought.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2007, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/37 "2007-07-01T06:08:33Z")

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What the hell are you talking about, **NoClueBoy**? It’s not raining.

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**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/38 "2007-07-02T17:53:37Z")

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Wow, it’s been really weird the last few days!

So, like, Saturday, there was, like, this big glowing ball in the sky? And, y’know, it was, like, giving off heat? Whoa, freaky!

Fortunately my sweetie ran out and sacrificed a squirrel in the backyard and made it go away.

But then it came back yesterday, for hours! And we didn’t even have any rain! Scary! I’m not sure what to do. [But we did get the lawn mowed, yay!]

And today, it was there again, just hanging in the sky. And did I mention the sky’s been a funny color? It’s all kinda…blue. Not a nice, normal gray, but BLUE!

Ah well, it’s almost back to normal now. It’s been sprinkling all morning and the sky’s almost back to the right color, and I can’t see that weird glowy thing. All will be well.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/39 "2007-07-02T18:39:11Z")

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Even [worse](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070702/ap_on_re_us/flooding), 42, 000 gallons of crude oil may be en route to pollute Oklahoma waters. ☹

[QUOTE=AP article]  
Problems created by the flooding were compounded by a spill of more than 42,000 gallons of crude oil from the Coffeyville Resources refinery into the Verdigris River, said Sharon Watson, spokeswoman for the Kansas Emergency Management Agency.

The federal Environmental Protection Agency had teams on the scene of the spill, said Jim Miller, Montgomery County emergency manager. About a third of the homes in Coffeyville and a quarter of homes in Independence had been evacuated, he said, and water intakes for Coffeyville, Independence and Elk City had been shut down.

Coffeyville Mayor Virgin Horn said his own house was submerged.

“We’re very concerned,” Horn said. “It’s chemicals mixed with water.”

The oil was expected to flow down the swollen Verdigris River into Oklahoma and Lake Oologah, said Maj. Gen. Tod Bunting, the Kansas state adjutant. The lake, about 30 miles northeast of Tulsa, provides flood control, drinking water and recreation.

“There are nine public water supplies along the Verdigris and the Oologah Lake, and none of them are currently affected,” said Skylar McElhaney, a spokeswoman for Oklahoma’s Department of Environmental Quality. Tulsa is among the cities that get water from Oologah.  
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The grass around here is still green, not sere. This is unusual. I’d take the scorched vegetation over the potential ecological damage myself.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-rain/409515/40 "2007-07-02T20:34:53Z")

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Here in northern Alabama, we’re in the clutches of the worst drought in the country. It has been declared an [exceptional drought](http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html), the worst drought rating there is. We’re under water restrictions. The crops are dying. Most of the fields are either dust bowls or baked, cracked hardpan. My wife and I are saving shower, dish, and any other drips of water we can save to water our hopelessly parched plants.

Oh yeah, and it’s not even the hottest part of the summer yet (although we’re now in the mid-to-high 90’s (35-38 Celsius) daily.

It’s like Arizona out here. No offense to Arizonans, mind you, but it’s supposed to be stifling here (hot and sticky humid). It’s not supposed to be desert hot!

Christ. Please, _please_ send us some rain. It’s getting desperate.

Bah!

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