# DAMN Sacha Baron Cohen is funny funny funny **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 1, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347 "2009-06-01T13:06:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/61 "2009-06-01T22:00:46Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > So, everyone invited to that event could have took their own security along? Seems a bit ridiculous to me. Or was the event accessible by anyone? Want to point out any other stars that were accompanied by their own security detail? IIRC, performers, nominees and presenters get tickets to the show, and can negotiate the amount of tickets they need. So, for someone low key, they ask for two - one for them, one for the wife. For stars that have an entourage, they may negotiate for more tickets, for their posse or whatever. This is based on my reading about the Oscars (Harvey Weinstein is famous for his ticket and seating demands) and I would bet most televised award shows work the same way. And for the record, it’s not funny because it’s a naked butt. It’s funny because it’s a naked butt _in Eminem’s face_. That’s comedy, because he is a pompous ass. It would also be funny on Paris Hilton, but not Ben Stiller. Get it? ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/62 "2009-06-01T22:07:02Z")
I don’t see how any of you can think he was mic’d. It clearly sounded like it was being picked up by Cohen’s mic. I vote for partially staged. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/63 "2009-06-01T22:23:41Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Oh, I don’t think Sacha was exposing any hypocrisy or bigotry or anything. I’m sure he’s well aware pretty much everyone would rather not have a guy’s ass shoved in their face. > > It’s just, Eminem deserves to have a guy’s ass shoved in his face. That’s the funny part. Pity SBC’s friend [Ken Davitian](http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2007_01_borat.jpg)wasn’t available. Are the people who were with Eminem security or were they members of his… exposing my age and intrinsic unhipness here… back-up singers/band/posse/whatever you call accompanists for a rapper? If they were security I wouldn’t be surprised for him to bring them along but I would be surprised for them to have seats. You’d think there’s probably a place where bodyguards and limo drivers and personal assistants and agents and others who tag along would wait. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/64 "2009-06-02T00:09:19Z")
Oh, my. [http://beta.video.msn.com/play/?pid=mgid:cms:mvideo:mtv.com:10202165&v=mtv](http://beta.video.msn.com/play/?pid=mgid:cms:mvideo:mtv.com:10202165&v=mtv) No way that was an ‘accident’! ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/65 "2009-06-02T00:24:55Z")
Psst… see [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=519592). ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/66 "2009-06-02T00:25:10Z")
When Bruno first hove in view, he said “Ich bin Bruno. Ich bin dove of peace.” But what was he saying later as his rigging went haywire? Sounded like some fake German word for testes-satchel. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/67 "2009-06-02T00:43:21Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > everyone would rather not have a guy’s ass shoved in their face. Oh, I dunno, I think it all depends on _whose_ ass it is. Cohen’s, no. Viggo Mortensen’s? Hmmmm…😉 > [@](#): > > It’s just, Eminem deserves to have a guy’s ass shoved in his face. That’s the funny part. True 'dat. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/68 "2009-06-02T01:00:56Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > When Bruno first hove in view, he said “Ich bin Bruno. Ich bin dove of peace.” But what was he saying later as his rigging went haywire? Sounded like some fake German word for testes-satchel. “Oh scheisse, my kuchen sack!” I don’t think it really needs translating. It’s funnier as is. I guess you could say, “oh shit, my cake sack!” or perhaps better, “my cookie sack!” He does speak German AFAIK, but half his Bruno “Austrian” is made up silly stuff. ---
**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/69 "2009-06-02T01:03:01Z")
> [@PetW](#): > > Eminem’s not really as homophobic as you think. He makes a ton of gay jokes, yet at the same time he said that when he was in rehab Elton John helped him out a lot with advice, since he had gone through a similar situation. Look, he makes tons of derogatory gay references in his songs and calls people faggots left and right. Whether or not he actually hates homosexuals on a personal level is a non-issue. It was still funny to see a male’s ass forced upon his face in such a crude manner, and he reacted exactly the way an insecure man would react – getting pissed and leaving the auditorium in a huff. What would I have done in a situation? Probably what the _rest_ of the audience was doing – laughing and having a good time and understanding that sometimes _you_ have to be the butt of the joke (pun intended!). Sure I might be grossed out but I wouldnt’ become so visibly outraged and leave the awards ceremony. There is a difference in being grossed out and being pissed. It was enjoyable because Eminem is quite good at dealing out the jokes but not very good at being on the opposite end of one. Hell, look at one of the past MTV awards shows with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog… He got pissed off at a hand puppet! > [@Smeghead](#): > > It’s not witty, it’s not clever, it’s certainly not “biting satire”. It’s a guy plopping his ass in someone’s face. I outgrew that level of humor right around junior high. No, it was just funny because pissing Eminem off is funny. For a guy who pisses everyone else off and complains of other people being sensitive and not being able to take a joke to throw a temper tantrum is pretty damn funny to me. And as for the satire go watch Borat like I already mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/70 "2009-06-02T01:05:01Z")
I didn’t watch the show. Did Eminem ever take the stage after this? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/71 "2009-06-02T01:22:17Z")
So Eminem can’t be homophobic, because he hangs out with Elton John? That’s the optiome of “some of my best friends are black.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/72 "2009-06-02T01:25:09Z")
Well, Eminem’s best friends _are_ black… ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/73 "2009-06-02T01:32:34Z")
If I did something similar to that to somebody at my college or at a job (after I get one), I’d get kicked out, fired, and possibly have charges pressed against me. It’s one thing if it was staged, but if Eminem wasn’t in on it, I don’t care how big of jerk he is, that’s just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/74 "2009-06-02T01:36:33Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You think a pantsless gay character shoving his bare ass in somebody’s face is “biting satire?” Well, if it’s done properly… 😉 I’m with you - I find Cohen unwatchable. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/75 "2009-06-02T01:38:49Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, Eminem’s best friends _are_ black… Eminem has friends? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/76 "2009-06-02T01:43:33Z")
He’s got homies, I think. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/77 "2009-06-02T02:06:47Z")
OK so, he was [definitely in on it](http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/06/eminem-got-punked.html), but… it’s unclear if he knew there’d be ass or not and, if so, did he know how much. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/78 "2009-06-02T02:20:02Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Anyway, there were others as well who made no racist comments but were made to look like fools or put into extremely horrible situtations. The grocery store manager, the B&B owners, the people in the elevator, **conventioners who are disrupted by two naked guys fighting. (If _you_ were attending a convention in your field and two naked men came into the room trying to kill each other [from the looks of it], would you find it amusing?)** Plus, lots of people are truly offended by the site of another person’s bare ass and genitals- which I don’t find particularly prudish. > > So anyway, pick on celebrities, fine. Leave others alone. (Emphasis mine.) I don’t think any public statement on this has ever been made by the filmmakers, but it seems to be widely believed that the convention scene was staged. Someone from whatever group that was supposed to be probably would have sued if it hadn’t been. When I saw _Borat_ I felt that the regular people in the movie mostly came off pretty well. They were generally just ordinary people trying their best to deal with a “foreigner” who behaved in a very strange manner. I’m not totally comfortable with Baron Cohen bringing regular people into his act and I’m sure I’d be embarrassed if it happened to me, but I didn’t think the dinner party people, the feminist group, the innkeepers, the morning news cast, the guys playing dice, or even the fundamentalists looked particularly bad or foolish in the movie. They were all taken in to some extent by Borat, but that’s what Baron Cohen does and being fooled by him doesn’t necessarily make one a fool. The only people I thought came off negatively were those who made racist, sexist, and homophobic remarks, and I’d say that’s all on them even if Baron Cohen was playing a trick on them. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/79 "2009-06-02T02:24:50Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > OK so, he was [definitely in on it](http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2009/06/eminem-got-punked.html), but… it’s unclear if he knew there’d be ass or not and, if so, did he know how much. Paris Hilton… she’s still around? I thought she said she was moving to India to open a day spa and aroma therapy resort for abused lepers or something. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/80 "2009-06-02T02:28:01Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Paris Hilton… she’s still around? I thought she said she was moving to India to open a day spa and aroma therapy resort for abused lepers or something. That’s hot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347.md?page=5)