# DAMN Sacha Baron Cohen is funny funny funny **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 1, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347 "2009-06-01T13:06:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/121 "2009-06-02T22:20:16Z")
An entertainment blog said that Eminem knew Cohen would drop on him but he didn’t know that Cohen would have as few clothes on as he did… I find that quite believable. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/122 "2009-06-03T00:13:10Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > So sexual assault is okay as long as the victim isn’t a nice person? It wasn’t remotely a sexual assault. Don’t insult real victims by saying it was. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/123 "2009-06-03T00:18:01Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > So sexual assault is okay as long as the victim isn’t a nice person? Of course not. However, I didn’t see this as sexual assault. More like an up close mooning. ---
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/124 "2009-06-03T02:12:07Z")
So funny. Me to little brother- “Wanna see Batmans cave?” LB- “sure!” Me - “Close your eyes” LB closes eyes Me - “Open your eyes!” LB opens eyes and sees my hairy ass about an inch from his face. LB - “MOM!” ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/125 "2009-06-03T11:32:37Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It wasn’t remotely a sexual assault. Don’t insult real victims by saying it was. Funny, as a survivor of sexual assault myself, I am not insulted by my own comments. Having unsolicited genitalia in your face is most certainly sexual assault, and it’s sad that we live in a culture where people find this funny just because it happens to someone they don’t like. I wouldn’t call it rape, because that certainly does cheapen rape. But it’s absolutely sexual assault. Just think of how you’d feel if this happened to your wife or one of your daughters, Dio. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/126 "2009-06-03T12:02:35Z")
> [@BrandonR](#): > > An entertainment blog said that Eminem knew Cohen would drop on him but he didn’t know that Cohen would have as few clothes on as he did… I find that quite believable. I thought I saw the E! kids saying it was not only staged, but they did a full “undress” rehearsal. Eminem knew exactly what was…uh…coming at him. Still not even remotely funny to me. Shocking to the unsuspecting viewer, possibly…but shocking isn’t necessarily funny. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/127 "2009-06-03T13:29:43Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It wasn’t remotely a sexual assault. Don’t insult real victims by saying it was. I’m never one to play this particular card, but I have to agree. As a survivor of a sexual assualt myself I wouldn’t say I’m insulted, but to compare it to one is asinine. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/128 "2009-06-03T14:16:56Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Having unsolicited genitalia in your face is most certainly sexual assault There was no genitalia, and it wasn’t remotely sexual assault. By the way, it was STAGED. Even the joke itself was supposed to be that it was accidental, not intentional. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/129 "2009-06-03T14:38:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > It’s not just that he’s humorless, but that he’s a “humorless PRICK.” The guy’s a total asshole. THAT’S why. He’s also been guilty of assault himself in the past. I’m sorry. I’m still in the dark. Every humorless prick should be sexually assaulted? Cohen should be the agent of that assault? You’ll need to flesh that out bit. So what if he’s a humorless prick? You cannot seriously be arguing that having a bad personality justifies such behavior, can you? Mathers was guilty of assault? When? Assault of whom? Was he arrested? Convicted? Punished? If so, why wasn’t that enough? If not, how do you know it happened? [QUOTE=Dio] There was no genitalia, and it wasn’t remotely sexual assault. [/QUOTE] Come on. If I thrust my half concealed testicles a half inch from some woman’s face, it would absolutely be sexual assault. Why wouldn’t it be? Because it’s man on man? If it happened to your son at school, what would you call it, hijinks? What does genitalia have to do with it? Is there no sexual assault unless a dick is out? That’s a fairly non-standard standard. I can think of sundry scenarios where a sexual assuaut can occur without genitalia being involved. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/130 "2009-06-03T15:12:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Come on. If I thrust my half concealed testicles a half inch from some woman’s face, it would absolutely be sexual assault. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/131 "2009-06-03T15:20:02Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Come on. If I thrust my half concealed testicles a half inch from some woman’s face, it would absolutely be sexual assault. Why wouldn’t it be? Because it’s man on man? If it happened to your son at school, what would you call it, hijinks? What does genitalia have to do with it? Is there no sexual assault unless a dick is out? That’s a fairly non-standard standard. I can think of sundry scenarios where a sexual assuaut can occur without genitalia being involved. I suppose there might be a legal definition that would put him in the “sexual offender” category (but so will peeing outside within eyeshot of a 10-year-old), but sexual assault? Wouldn’t you have to actually TOUCH the person to assault them? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/132 "2009-06-03T15:32:02Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Wouldn’t you have to actually TOUCH the person to assault them? No. Sexual battery requires physical contact; assault (and sexual assault) do not. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/133 "2009-06-03T15:37:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No. Sexual battery requires physical contact; assault (and sexual assault) do not. Thanks for the clarification! Question: Then what exactly IS the criteria for sexual assault? Can uninvited gyrating in a banana hammock constitute sexual assault? Serious question. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/134 "2009-06-03T15:40:51Z")
No problem. In so saying, I’m fairly certain SBC did actually touch Eminem, since his legs appeared to be resting on his shoulders, so I suppose you could make a case for sexual battery. On the other hand, you usually have to show some sexual element in order to get somebody convicted of sexual batter, and I’m not certain that the _perpetrator’s_ nudity qualifies. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/135 "2009-06-03T15:44:26Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Cite? \*sexual assault n. Conduct of a sexual or indecent nature toward another person that is accompanied by actual or threatened physical force or that induces fear, shame, or mental suffering. \* [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+assault](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+assault) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/136 "2009-06-03T15:53:56Z")
There was nothing sexual about it (no idea what “indecent” is supposed to mean), and there was no force. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/137 "2009-06-03T15:58:49Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > \*sexual assault > n. > Conduct of a sexual or indecent nature toward another person that is accompanied by actual or threatened physical force or that induces fear, shame, or mental suffering. > \* > > [Sexual assault - definition of sexual assault by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+assault) Wow. That certainly gives an ultra-sensitive person a lot of leeway to fuck with someone. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/138 "2009-06-03T16:03:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There was nothing sexual about it (no idea what “indecent” is supposed to mean), and there was no force. Testicles in the face is not sexual? How odd. You do understand what “or” means, right? Force is not a necessary element. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/139 "2009-06-03T16:17:17Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > \*sexual assault > n. > Conduct of a sexual or indecent nature toward another person that is accompanied by actual or threatened physical force or that induces fear, shame, or mental suffering. > \* > > [Sexual assault - definition of sexual assault by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sexual+assault) What actual or threatened physical force was there here? And again, CONTEXT, people. This was not the Queen Mum out for a night at the Opera. It was one entertainer to another entertainer on MTV, and for gajillionth time, it was **staged.** ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347/140 "2009-06-03T16:20:17Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > What actual or threatened physical force was there here? > > And again, CONTEXT, people. This was not the Queen Mum out for a night at the Opera. It was one entertainer to another entertainer on MTV, and for gajillionth time, it was **staged.** … **OR** that induces fear, shame, or mental suffering. So if someone is stressed out over this, or feels shame for having seen a winged cocknballs flying around the room, said flying cocknballs can be arrested for sexual assault. That sucks beyond all suckitude. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-sacha-baron-cohen-is-funny-funny-funny/498347.md?page=8)