# Damn Yankees kill another Southern institution: White Lily flour **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939 "2008-06-23T17:15:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/181 "2008-06-24T23:37:56Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] You seriously don’t understand why the dissolution of something that has been a small, but important touchstone to family traditions and history, regional history, and a small testament to extremely high-quality food, is troublesome? Or are you just being a dick? [/QUOTE] Chill, guy. I agree with you about all those things you said. I just happen to think raspberry seeds are important, too, if not for the identical reasons you mention, then for others, equally valid. I also happen to think that there may be other products that have suffered similarly at the hands of the people at Smuckers. And that there’s strength in numbers. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/182 "2008-06-24T23:38:20Z")
Well, I was born in Danville, Virginia(last capital of the Confederacy), lived my first 20 years in Arlington, VA(You are considered a Yankee if you live in Northern VA), lived in Durham NC for 5 years, and have lived in Northern Ohio for 35 years. What am I? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/183 "2008-06-24T23:40:55Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] My apologies, then, **kaylasdad99**. I must admit to having my back up a bit over this whole thing. [/QUOTE] No worries. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/184 "2008-06-24T23:44:21Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] Well, I was born in Danville, Virginia(last capital of the Confederacy), lived my first 20 years in Arlington, VA(You are considered a Yankee if you live in Northern VA), lived in Durham NC for 5 years, and have lived in Northern Ohio for 35 years. What am I? [/QUOTE] You’re **samclem**. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/185 "2008-06-24T23:48:10Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] Chill, guy. I agree with you about all those things you said. I just happen to think raspberry seeds are important, too, if not for the identical reasons you mention, then for others, equally valid. . [/QUOTE] I think that Smucker’s produces raspberry with both seeds and non-seeds. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/186 "2008-06-24T23:49:23Z")
[QUOTE=Labrador Deceiver] Mostly, they’re just telling you to shut up and stop thread shitting. I’ve never seen someone defend the practice so vehemently, or so poorly. [/QUOTE] People who want unalloyed sympathy for their ache du jour should post in MPSIMS, not in the Pit. I’ve been called ignorant, a bitch, and a retard, and _I’m_ the one behaving badly here. It’s through the working glass, frankly. But I’ll certainly give you opinion of my posting the weight it deserves. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/187 "2008-06-24T23:53:14Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] It’s through the working glass, frankly. [/QUOTE] Oh, please, let’s not bring up the shibboleth of glass conflict here. Everyone knows the the US is a glassless society. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/188 "2008-06-24T23:53:21Z")
> [@](#): > > People who want unalloyed sympathy for their ache du jour should post in MPSIMS, not in the Pit. We’ve covered this ground recently. Bring on whatever it is you feel needs to be brought. > [@](#): > > I’ve been called ignorant, a bitch, and a retard, and I’m the one behaving badly here. Don’t forget callous, uncaring and insensitive! ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/189 "2008-06-24T23:58:32Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] So you refuse to sympathize with a lot of people who claim that this is an important issue to them…even though it does not really touch you, and it would cost nothing to stop and think for a second that perhaps a little compassion for something else good that has been lost to corporate homogenization might not be out of order? [/quote] Uh, yeah. It’s the same level of sympathy I felt when the Backstreet Boys broke up. Not everything that is important to you important to everyone else. I don’t see anything _in this instance_ that merits my compassion and sympathy, especially to you personally since your’e coming across as an irrationally enraged fruitcake. I wouldn’t say I don’t sympathize with “a lot of people,” but I sure as hell don’t sympathize with YOU. At this point, I’d be great with them discontinuing Moon Pies and Duke’s mayonnaise if I thought it would put some more sand in your shorts. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/190 "2008-06-25T00:01:36Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] I wouldn’t say I don’t sympathize with “a lot of people,” but I sure as hell don’t sympathize with YOU. At this point, I’d be great with them discontinuing Moon Pies and Duke’s mayonnaise if I thought it would put some more sand in your shorts. [/QUOTE] And that, of course, is what makes you little more than a spiteful little threadshitter. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/191 "2008-06-25T00:02:22Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] At this point, I’d be great with them discontinuing Moon Pies and Duke’s mayonnaise if I thought it would put some more sand in your shorts. [/QUOTE] You’d see hundreds of people unemployed due to a perceived slight on a message board? How charming. And by charming I mean you’re a sociopathic piece of bat excrement. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/192 "2008-06-25T00:06:23Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] And that, of course, is what makes you little more than a spiteful little threadshitter. [/QUOTE] Somebody call the waambulance. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/193 "2008-06-25T00:07:52Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] You’d see hundreds of people unemployed due to a perceived slight on a message board? How charming. And by charming I mean you’re a sociopathic piece of bat excrement. [/QUOTE] Yeah, well you’re a self-involved blowhard of a queen, though whether that’s charming or not is really a matter of taste. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/194 "2008-06-25T00:08:49Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Somebody call the waambulance. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Somebody call the Threadshitting Bigot Bitch Patrol. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/195 "2008-06-25T00:17:37Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] I think that Smucker’s produces raspberry with both seeds and non-seeds. [/QUOTE] Yeah? Well, no matter; I’ll sign on anyway. I spent six very tolerable months south of the Mason-Dixon line, back in 1981, and while I never had an opportunity to cook during that period (or to eat home-cooking, for that matter), I’ll take at face value friend **Ogre** ’s assessment that this is a tragedy, not only for the people who stand to be thrown out of work, and the folks who will no longer have access to what must be the ambrosia of flours, but to generations yet unborn who will never know the perfection of the properly-made White Lily biscuit. And Uncrustables are an abomination, anyway. ETA: By the way, is somebody planning to come around and punish **Miller** for that “glassless society” bit, there, or are we just going to let it go? ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/196 "2008-06-25T00:19:36Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] Somebody call the Threadshitting Bigot Bitch Patrol. [/QUOTE] Unfortunately for you, there isn’t one. So you’ll just have to pull up your big girl panties and deal with my opinion yourself. Though if you don’t have anything else to bring but basic insults, we’re probably done anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/197 "2008-06-25T00:21:39Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] Well, I was born in Danville, Virginia(last capital of the Confederacy)… … What am I? [/QUOTE] Mistaken. The final capital of the Confederacy was [Greensboro](http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080203/NRSTAFF/335828357/-1/GSOCOM0200&template=bicentennialart) ,[North](http://www.hellogreensboro.com/) [Carolina](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro,_North_Carolina) (April 11-16), though [Charlotte](http://hometown.aol.com/almaur777/page2.html) (April 17) also stakes a claim. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/198 "2008-06-25T00:30:34Z")
[QUOTE=Jodi] Unfortunately for you, there isn’t one. So you’ll just have to pull up your big girl panties and deal with my opinion yourself. Though if you don’t have anything else to bring but basic insults, we’re probably done anyway. [/QUOTE] Ha. Sure. You take massive umbrage to one mild term in the title of the OP, blow it into a giant personal battle (as, I’ve noticed through the years, is your wont,) and I have the problem. :rolleyes: And never think, for one tiny little fraction of a second, that I’m unwilling or unable to “deal with your opinion”. You have said nothing particularly valuable, insightful, nor intelligent. You’re simply an ignorant little person who doesn’t know she’s acting like a child. It’s kind of sad. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/199 "2008-06-25T00:32:00Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] ETA: By the way, is somebody planning to come around and punish **Miller** for that “glassless society” bit, there, or are we just going to let it go? [/QUOTE] Leave him alone; he’s been punnish enough. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939/200 "2008-06-25T00:33:02Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] Perhaps I wanted to see what a true cross-section of the SDMB might say. [/QUOTE] You think that’s what you’ve got with this poisoned well bullshit? Really? All you’ve done is prove that there are some people on here who are just as big willy-wavers as you, and perplexed a whole bunch of other people who got caught in the middle of your little drama. Way to go, champ. > [@](#): > > Primarily because I don’t give a rat’s ass about getting a chorus of assent. This claim might have more credibility if you hadn’t jumped down the throats of everyone who dared to respond in a less-than-entirely shocked manner to your floury plight; even those who appeared to agree with you. You were clearly spoiling for a fight with anyone and everyone, so don’t try and gussy this up by claiming you were trying to draw out known bigots. That’s a self-serving pile of crap. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-yankees-kill-another-southern-institution-white-lily-flour/453939.md?page=11)