# Damn you, body! (TMI foir guys, perhaps)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 16, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575 "2002-10-16T21:27:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2002, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/21 "2002-10-17T15:51:15Z")

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Nothing like waking up to the Japanese flag.

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**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2002, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/22 "2002-10-17T17:24:21Z")

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F\_X - TMI ???

Not even close.

I think it is good that people can talk about things like this since they are part of the human experience and nothing to feel ashamed about.

Perhaps I should get the guys together so we can swap vasectomy stories… it’s been a while.

🙂

Feynn

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/23 "2002-10-17T18:16:45Z")

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[pet peeve hijack]

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> \*Originally posted by Lsura \*  
> \*\*there is not a chance in hell of me being pregnant unless it’s immaculate (and I haven’t had any visits from angels lately informing me of that). \*\*

The Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary, nt Jesus. [/pet peeve hijack]

gigi, who used to be able to set her watch by her flow, but now anything goes. Luckily it starts slowly, so nothing too embarrassing has happened.

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**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/24 "2002-10-17T19:29:50Z")

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Why, why, WHY did I open this thread, thinking that the content would be ok JUST because Flami wrote it?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/25 "2002-10-18T00:09:24Z")

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**Flamsterette** ,

Girl, I feel ya. I was actually jumping for joy when my period came today because I have to go to a conference next week.

Sometimes it seems like the waiting is just as bad as the actual event. I particularly hate it when you KNOW the period is coming (you have all the symptoms) but it won’t come. You’re just hanging there in PMS limbo, praying for rain.

> [@](#):
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> Please excuse my male ignorance, but why do you care so much when it happens?

I went on a camping trip once and started bleeding en route. Within hours, everyone in the class–including the male professor–knew about it because I had to find laundry facilities (because I hadn’t packed but one pair of pants, stupid me). Not only was it inconvenient, it was highly embarrassing! It was like the nightmare of millions of women had come true!

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/26 "2002-10-18T01:39:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> \*\ ***ultress** , you’re one of my favorite people around this zoo and all, but (a) you know the range of things people discuss around here, and it can sometimes get biologically quite detailed on any number of subjects. Feminine hygiene is hardly out of line, all things considered. And (b) the thread title _did_ say “TMI”. Ya don’t wanna read it, ya don’t haveta open it.
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> Me, I’ve been married long enough that I’ve long since lost any squeamishishness I ever had about any of this. I’m just glad I’ve got a male body. Prostate problems (not counting cancer, of course) are trivial compared to menstrual stuff. \*\*

**RTFirefly** , thank you for responding to **ultress** in a more controlled way than I would have last night. I decided not to bother just then. (otherwise I very likely would have given somewhat physiologically impossible directions)

To the others who have taken **ultress** to task: I appreciate it. Not that I have a grudge against **ultress** for questioning what I post (even though it’s been done before in my threads, by the same person), but I really don’t think the post was called for.

**ultress** : if your intent was to somehow make me feel embarrassed over what I choose to post, you have failed. There are some threads I’ve posted in the past which I’m not proud of, but this one isn’t something where I should feel lingering shame over. I realize that the topic may be an embarrassing one (and I certainly don’t go shouting it to all and sundry), but the thread is posted, and it got replies similar to along the lines of what I was expecting. (except yours, but I was prepared for it in a way)

As **Feynn** said:

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> I think it is good that people can talk about things like this since they are part of the human experience and nothing to feel ashamed about.

What can you do about it? Nothing! I feel that you’re trying to censor me in some way. Maybe you’re the one that has unresolved issues around this topic, I don’t know. Soi while I might not say this kind of thing to you if I were to meet you face-to-face, it’s posted here because the medium is somewhat anonymous. Besides, this isn’t nearly as personal as some of the threads I’ve read on this board and others.

For the people who have dealt with **Muad’Dib** and his question of why we women would care so much when we have it, thank you very much. I would have given the question a straight answer (honestly I would have), but you’ve done it for me. I’d like to add one thing, though: there are people out there who plan some things around their cycles, just so you know. And when it doesn’t show up at the expected time, things can get very crazy.

Thanks for the sympathy and replies of that nature. ( **MsRobyn** , **monstro** , **celestina** , etc.) I don’t think that I’ve been any more stressed out than usual. But maybe there’s something I’m overlooking… As for you guys ( **Larry Mudd** , **Feynn** , etc.) who don’t have to go through this, you do have it relatively easy…

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> \*Originally posted by ResIpsaLoquitor \*  
> **Why, why, WHY did I open this thread, thinking that the content would be ok JUST because Flami wrote it?**

Good thing I’m not drinking anything just now, because that comment would have made me splort liquid all over my keyboard and / or monitor. BWAHAHAHAHA.

F\_X

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**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/27 "2002-10-18T02:13:37Z")

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I always pray that I’ll get mine so the heaviest days fall on the weekend so I won’t have to deal with the worst at work. I tend to gush lots of dark red and big clots. Clots the size of egg flattened out. Easy to overflow even the overnite pads in as little as 2 hours. No wonder I tend to be anemic. Once, I had been concentrating so hard at work that by the time I got up there was a stain about 6 inches across and 8 inches long on my chair. I saw it right away and quickly sat back down. I sat there until everyone left for the day and then went and cleaned up me and then the chair. I was so happy a couple of weeks later when a despised coworker stole my chair and replaced it with his because the arm had a nick in it.

Currently my period is 3 months late and I am very happy about that. Maybe if you worry enough you can delay it until after your trip.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/28 "2002-10-18T02:17:10Z")

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You rock, **Flammy** – I hope that the Awana conference goes smoothly for you.

**Gigi** – thanks for the gripe about the immaculate conception-- a quick consultation of the Catholic Encyclopedia and there’s a tiny bit less ignorance in the world. I hate being misinformed.

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/29 "2002-10-18T02:59:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \*  
> \*\*  
> **Gigi** – thanks for the gripe about the immaculate conception-- a quick consultation of the Catholic Encyclopedia and there’s a tiny bit less ignorance in the world. I hate being misinformed. \*\*

Same from me - and I do know the difference, really, I swear (13 years of Catholic school). In my defense, I didn’t _specifically_ refer to it as the Immaculate Conception…not that it matters, 'cause you still called me out on what I was referring to in my mind.

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**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/30 "2002-10-18T03:11:01Z")

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It’s the pit, don’t get ya Fruit of The Looms in a wad. You posted, I responded, you don’t have to like it, I don’t have to like it. And please don’t flatter yourself into thinking I censor you in any respect or that you are above and beyond any other poster. I don’t usually notice who the poster is, more along just what the thread is about. I just hate to see our illustrious Pit start to get bogged down with crap, but then I’m not a censor and it is a free board. JMHO for what it’s worth and that ain’t much I can tell you. Please be assured that I will be careful in the future to notice who the OP is and will no longer respond to yours since it bothers you so much and makes you feel singled out.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/31 "2002-10-18T16:25:11Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by ultress \*

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> It’s the pit, don’t get ya Fruit of The Looms in a wad. You posted, I responded, you don’t have to like it, I don’t have to like it.

And we responded to you. And you don’t have to like that, either.

Sure, it’s the Pit, and the rules allow you to jump on people’s asses here. But that doesn’t make it right or wrong; it just makes it _permissible under the rules_.

So if you’re saying “It’s the pit, don’t get ya Fruit of The Looms in a wad,” to say that your comments won’t draw fire from the mods, you’re right. But we already know that, and nobody said they would, so it’s meaningless.

But if you’re saying it as shorthand for “you shouldn’t jump on me for what I said when I jumped on her,” then that’s just plain silly. Our perceptions of right and wrong are still fully operational, and if we think you were wrong, we’re liable to say so. And some may do so in the enthusiastic manner that the Pit rules allow.

**F\_X** - you’re welcome. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/32 "2002-10-18T17:11:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by lee \*  
> \*\*I always pray that I’ll get mine so the heaviest days fall on the weekend so I won’t have to deal with the worst at work. I tend to gush lots of dark red and big clots. Clots the size of egg flattened out. Easy to overflow even the overnite pads in as little as 2 hours. \*\*

Now _that’s_ what I call TMI. But still, not so graphic. For \*\* lee (and anyone else who wants one): an angry clot-- :mad:

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/33 "2002-10-18T20:39:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by lee \*  
> \*\*Currently my period is 3 months late and I am very happy about that. Maybe if you worry enough you can delay it until after your trip. \*\*

**lee** , from the way things are going, right now it’s very likely it’ll show up after the one-day conference. But you just never know.

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \*  
> **You rock, Flammy-- I hope that the Awana conference goes smoothly for you.**

If it’s anything like how it went last year, we should all be very tired by the day’s end, given that it starts at 8 AM and ends at 4 PM. Imagine all those grey-and-red uniforms everywhere… woo! But we will get a conference pin. (plus lots of info on various things, depending on the workshops we attend)

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by ultress \*  
> **And please don’t flatter yourself into thinking I censor you in any respect or that you are above and beyond any other poster. I don’t usually notice who the poster is, more along just what the thread is about. I just hate to see our illustrious Pit start to get bogged down with crap, but then I’m not a censor and it is a free board. JMHO for what it’s worth and that ain’t much I can tell you. Please be assured that I will be careful in the future to notice who the OP is and will no longer respond to yours since it bothers you so much and makes you feel singled out.**

Believe me, **ultress** , I was not flattering myself, or you, for that matter. I remembered that you had done a similar thing in at least one of my threads previously, and I was just stating facts and opinion, nothing more. It’s no skin off my nose if you especially avoid my posts / threads from now on, but it’ll be a sad board where interaction among the members has to be self-censored. (aside from the ignore list)

I definitely do not believe that you censor me in any way; I was just stating my opinion. Furthermore, I most emphatically do NOT believe that I am above and beyond any other poster. Certainly not. Now, while I may have self-esteem issues, I will not allow you or anyone to trample it down any further. So if I were to say that I’m just as good as the next person to post in this thread, would you say that I wasn’t? Of course, we all have our opinions on individuals using this message board, and I am not out to censor any of these. However, I certainly do not believe that I am the absolute best poster around here, if that’s what you’re trying to get at.

I never for a moment thought you were especially waiting for a dodgy OP from me so you could make these comments in it at all. But hey… if that’s what you think, then I can’t make you think differently. It doesn’t bother me _per se_ if you respond to my posts, nor does it make me feel singled out. If you wish to take a condescending tone with me, I cannot order you not to. I might wish that that you wouldn’t, and even wish that you’d keep you opinions to yourself, but that would defeat the putpose of getting to hear people’s varied opinions, would it not? However, I don’t particularly like your patronizing tone, either. But I can’t do anything about it, just as you can’t do anything about what I (or others) post.

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> \*\*And we responded to you. And you don’t have to like that, either.
> 
> Sure, it’s the Pit, and the rules allow you to jump on people’s asses here. But that doesn’t make it right or wrong; it just makes it permissible under the rules.
> 
> So if you’re saying “It’s the pit, don’t get ya Fruit of The Looms in a wad,” to say that your comments won’t draw fire from the mods, you’re right. But we already know that, and nobody said they would, so it’s meaningless.
> 
> But if you’re saying it as shorthand for “you shouldn’t jump on me for what I said when I jumped on her,” then that’s just plain silly. Our perceptions of right and wrong are still fully operational, and if we think you were wrong, we’re liable to say so. And some may do so in the enthusiastic manner that the Pit rules allow.
> 
> F\_X - you’re welcome. :)\*\*

I have no idea what interpretation of the words **ultress** intended, but what you’ve said is true, **RTFirefly**. None of these comments yet so far will cause the mods to take especial notice (I hope). But if we shouldn’t jump on **ultress** for what was said when he / she posted and scolded me (after a fashion), we don’t have to like it, either. We can still have different perspectives of right and wrong. Definitely people will say so in no uncertain terms if they think you’re wrong, especially in this forum. (and BOY, did I learn that for myself a couple weeks ago)

Much appreciated, **RTFirefly**. I have gained new respect for you. (gee, this is SO un-Pitlike… not even a swear word yet, I don’t think… and “damn” doesn’t count) 🙂

Now, is **ultress** a he or a she? (genuine, curious question) I’m inclined to guess “she,” but you can never tell just from usernames alone. Just tired of having to dance around “he / she” and "him / “her”, that’s all.

F\_X

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/34 "2002-10-18T20:46:14Z")

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Oh, one other question while I’m at it… what is PCOS? I can guess that it has to do with stress and periods, and even cycles perhaps. The best I can come up with is “Period Cycle of Stress,” but it must mean something other than that. If not, then good for me, I guess.

F\_X

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/35 "2002-10-18T20:55:07Z")

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**FX** – Polycystic ovarian syndrome.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2002, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/36 "2002-10-18T21:11:52Z")

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Eggs? Ack lee!

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2002, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/37 "2002-10-19T04:05:15Z")

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Ah…the Pill. No more being surprised after only 25 days, or gnashing my teeth while waiting 57 days…nice and consistent now 🙂 Starts Wednesday morning, endsd Saturday afternoon, though with a bit of spotting Sunday from about 12-4pm. Really. It’s the same every time.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/38 "2002-10-20T00:40:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \*  
> And best wishes to you, my dear, for your future happiness.
> 
> (We are assuming you are the bride. Nobody but the bride would dream of wearing white to a wedding.)

Thank you for the kind thought, Matt - but I have been married 12 years now and, in fact, I did not wear white but rather a traditional Scottish tartan for my ensemble (the husband and I were both heavily involved in Scottish culture at the time, and in fact our romance had blossomed during our tenure in the same bagpipe band)

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/39 "2002-11-02T20:45:42Z")

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It’s still not here yet… I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that they’re retarring the roofs around here in this apartment complex? Anybody have any ideas? I am so not stressed out right now… and probably will see my doctor next week if the situation doesn’t improve.

F\_X

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2002, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-body-tmi-foir-guys-perhaps/132575/40 "2002-11-02T23:09:23Z")

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Well, one thing to be said for all this: this is a subject on which I have no expertise whatsoever, have no opinion, no suggestions, nothing whatever to add to the conversation.

Rather a relief, actually.

Hello, I must be going.

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