# Damn you Devils! Damn you to hell! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794 "2003-06-10T05:22:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jovan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jovan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jovan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/1 "2003-06-10T05:22:13Z")
So, it looks like the Devils won the cup. Thus depriving me of the opportunity to post the rant I had been preparing all night. Damn, I was all reading to walk into the pit, guns ablaze, and start firing away, mouth foaming and all. But I guess that won’t be happening. No siree, because of you, hell-bound Devils, I won’t get to vent my now-virtual rage. I won’t get to make a fuss over the fact that a fucking team named after a fucking piece of shit fucking Disney movie should never, _ever_ get to have their name engraved onto the most holy of chalices. No matter who’s playing for them. So, thanks to you, I am now rantless. Way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/2 "2003-06-10T05:27:49Z")
Dumb question, but I imagine the NJ Devils are named after the mythical beast of the same name, right? I kinda hope their namesake isn’t Satan. ---
**Author:** ![jovan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jovan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jovan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/3 "2003-06-10T05:29:47Z")
Either way, they’re bound straight to hell. At least as far as I am concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/4 "2003-06-10T05:36:44Z")
My wife’s high school was called the Devils Lake Satans (Devils Lake, ND). It was the only cool thing about that town. There was something kind of spooky and righteous about hearing a bunch of teenagers at football game chanting “Satans, Satans, Satans!!” It was bitchin’. A bunch of anal retentive fundies made them change the name last year. Fucking wankers. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/5 "2003-06-10T05:38:41Z")
Oh, and I’m glad NJ won the cup, or more like I’m glad the Ducks lost, because they beat the Wild out of the play-offs so fuck them. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/6 "2003-06-10T11:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\*Dumb question, but I imagine the NJ Devils are named after the mythical beast of the same name, right? I kinda hope their namesake isn’t Satan. \*\* They were named after an [urban legend](http://pw1.netcom.com/~thefix/jdlegend.html). ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/7 "2003-06-10T11:49:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jovan \* > \*\*Either way, they’re bound straight to hell. At least as far as I am concerned. \*\* Not quite… _Winners go to Disney World._\* \*LOSERS go back to Disney Land. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/8 "2003-06-10T12:21:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*They were named after an [urban legend](http://pw1.netcom.com/~thefix/jdlegend.html). \*\* I don’t know that I would call it an “urban legend.” We use the term “urban legend” to refer to modern folklore. The story of the Jersey Devil is far too old and established to be called an “urban” legend. (But thanks for the neat link. I like how it included the X-Files treatment of the legend, which I really enjoyed.) I’m glad you brought it up, **Brutus**. It’s surprising how many people, even people who live in New Jersey, don’t know that “the Jersey Devils” isn’t just some random made-up team name and actually has local significance. p.s. w00t! ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/9 "2003-06-10T12:26:29Z")
So the Devils _were_ named after that X-Files episode, huh? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/10 "2003-06-10T12:57:31Z")
Okay, then folk legend. I think of it as a UL rather than folk because I lived near the Pine Barrens as a young 'un, and there were people in my community who tried to convince outsiders that the JD was actively rampaging around, menacing hikers and the like. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/11 "2003-06-10T13:06:52Z")
Devils and Ducks. Trap trap trap trap trap. Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Maybe someday they can start enforcing the rules - especially the one about “Holding,” did you know there’s actually a rule against that? - and hockey will become exciting again. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/12 "2003-06-10T13:24:40Z")
Isn’t it a bit redundant to damn a devil to hell? ---
**Author:** ![Wyld\_Stallyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Wyld\_Stallyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyld_Stallyn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/13 "2003-06-10T15:20:30Z")
so **RickJay** , I’m assuming you like the high-flying gloryboy European style? \Ey boy, if you don’t like American-style hockey, then you can just GET OUT!!!\ Mike Rupp is my dad. Scott Stevens is now your God (although Daneyko’s comment that he’s the best ever is a little off-mark, unless he had an acute mental lapse and forgot about a guy named Orr). THE 2003 STANLEY CUP CHAMPION NEW JERSEY DEVILS ---
**Author:** ![Rooster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rooster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rooster)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/14 "2003-06-10T16:19:30Z")
I have to agree with the OP. I was cheering for the BORING BORING BORING Devils, just because I couldn’t stand the thought of the words “Mighty Ducks” being engraved on the Stanley Cup. I mean, how would the Americans feel if a company bought a football team and named it “The Sponge-Bob Square Pants of Palooka-ville”??? What a disgrace!!! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/15 "2003-06-10T17:04:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*Oh, and I’m glad NJ won the cup, or more like I’m glad the Ducks lost, because they beat the Wild out of the play-offs so fuck them. \*\* And i’m glad the Wild lost, because they beat the Canucks out of the play-offs, so fuck them. 🙂 The last thing the sporting world needed was another fucking team from Anaheim winning a major trophy. Those bastards in Orange County are already developing delusions of adequacy after the last year’s World Series. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/16 "2003-06-10T17:11:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wyld Stallyn \* > \*\*so **RickJay** , I’m assuming you like the high-flying gloryboy European style? \*\* Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Bobby Orr, Phil Esposito, Guy Lafleur - no sir, you don’t need to be European to play hockey the way the good Lord meant for it to be played. If The Great One played a speed-and-passing game, then by God, that is the way hockey was supposed to be played. Good physical hockey means HITTING. Not holding. The NHL is getting really, really boring. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/17 "2003-06-10T17:26:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*Okay, then folk legend. I think of it as a UL rather than folk because I lived near the Pine Barrens as a young 'un, and there were people in my community who tried to convince outsiders that the JD was actively rampaging around, menacing hikers and the like. \*\* Oh, but he is… I spent a night outdoors in the Pine Barrens once. \ I had to go water a tree. So I peeked out of my tent…and there he was! Well, no, there was nothing there, but the Pine Barrens sure are cree-pee at night! ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/18 "2003-06-10T19:40:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\*Maybe someday they can start enforcing the rules - especially the one about “Holding,” did you know there’s actually a rule against that? - and hockey will become exciting again. \*\* Repeated play stoppage is infinitely more boring than allowing a few hooks and holds and interferences to slide by (and when the entire nation is watching on basic cable during prime time hours, boring is not what they’re going for). I wouldn’t have minded a few of the more blatant offenses, from both sides, to have been called but if the refs call every single hook and interference the game would last 5 hours and would be mostly a 3v3 or 4v2 affair. In a sport that requires so much physical contact, there are going to be holds and the like, it’s natural and it’s part of the game. The players expect it and adapt to it. If they called every penalty in hockey, what’d be next, calling travelling in basketball? ---
**Author:** ![Quack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e99b99/32.png) [@Quack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quack)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/19 "2003-06-10T22:27:33Z")
If they called traveling in basketball, scores would be in the range or 55-60. The days of jump-shooting are all but gone… ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794/20 "2003-06-10T23:18:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by soulmurk \* > \*\*Repeated play stoppage is infinitely more boring than allowing a few hooks and holds and interferences to slide by (and when the entire nation is watching on basic cable during prime time hours, boring is not what they’re going for). I wouldn’t have minded a few of the more blatant offenses, from both sides, to have been called but if the refs call every single hook and interference the game would last 5 hours and would be mostly a 3v3 or 4v2 affair. In a sport that requires so much physical contact, there are going to be holds and the like, it’s natural and it’s part of the game. The players expect it and adapt to it. > > If they called every penalty in hockey, what’d be next, calling travelling in basketball? \*\* Well, the thing is, if they called holding (and hooking and interference) consistently, it wouldn’t happen nearly as much. Just at the start of the preseason, announce the change in officiating policy, and penalize the bejesus out of everyone in exhibition games, and by the time the season started, players faced with an opponent who has a step on them would refrain from merely hooking the guy back so they can keep up and would instead dig deep for a few strides to pull even, and _then_ lay their body into the guy - which is how hockey is meant to be played. The analogy with travelling just doesn’t work, since arguably basketball is more entertaining with players allowed the extra step or two. Hockey, on the other hand, is demonstrably more entertaining without all the hooking and grabbing. If you don’t believe me, find a videotape of the '87 Canada Cup finals and see for yourself. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damn-you-devils-damn-you-to-hell/180794.md?page=2)