# Damned Women

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 20, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815 "2014-02-20T19:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/1 "2014-02-20T19:51:55Z")

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My good friend Jeff and I were having breakfast today. While I was cooking waffles, he put on a song by Queens of the Stone Age:

_“I’m your Jezebel, she said,  
On my way to hell, she said…”_

Suddenly Jeff says, “Wait – girls go to Hell too?”

Being a girl, I felt pretty confident fielding that one.

“Yes, of course they do,” I said, running briefly over my more rambunctious past activities in my mind, and feeling relieved that I’m not a Christian. “What made you think they wouldn’t?”

“It’s not that I thought they wouldn’t, I just never pictured it.”

Ha ha haaaa! I just love Jeff!

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/2 "2014-02-20T19:56:55Z")

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It’s so much _easier_ not being a Christian.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/3 "2014-02-20T20:28:35Z")

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I never understood hell to be complicated.

Women? Oh yeah, they’re complicated.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/4 "2014-02-20T20:30:54Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> My good friend Jeff and I were having breakfast today. While I was cooking waffles, he put on a song by Queens of the Stone Age:
> 
> _“I’m your Jezebel, she said,  
> On my way to hell, she said…”_
> 
> Suddenly Jeff says, “Wait – girls go to Hell too?”
> 
> Being a girl, I felt pretty confident fielding that one.
> 
> “Yes, of course they do,” I said, running briefly over my more rambunctious past activities in my mind, and feeling relieved that I’m not a Christian. “What made you think they wouldn’t?”
> 
> “It’s not that I thought they wouldn’t, I just never pictured it.”
> 
> Ha ha haaaa! I just love Jeff!

Well, only Bad Girls.

Because (to quote another song), as everyone knows, Good Girls Go to Heaven, but Bad Girls go Everywhere

> **[Good Girls Go to Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Girls_Go_to_Heaven_(Bad_Girls_Go_Everywhere))**
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> "Good Girls Go to Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere)" is a song written by Jim Steinman. It was first performed by Megumi Shiina as "Kanashimi Wa Tsudzukanai" (悲しみは続かない, lit. "sadness doesn't last") and used as the opening to the 1986 Japanese TV drama Kono Ko Dare no Ko? The song was first performed in English by Pandora's Box, on their 1989 album, Original Sin, with Holly Sherwood singing lead vocals.
> Like many Steinman song titles, this one appears to be derived from a popular expression, or...

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/5 "2014-02-20T20:38:01Z")

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It’s the wing of Hell reserved for Russ Meyer heroines, and Elizabeth Bathory\*, and a component of us guys’ Hell is the knowledge that we can’t get in.

\*admit it guys, you’d just have to feel if her skin really was especially soft.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/6 "2014-02-20T20:41:41Z")

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Maybe, for Jeff, hell is by definition the absence of women. 😃

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**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/7 "2014-02-20T21:40:51Z")

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This is kind of in the same category as “cats are girls and dogs are boys”.

As far as my Christian church is concerned no one actually goes to Hell, so Jeff is half right I guess.

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**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/8 "2014-02-20T22:01:22Z")

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Another area to worry about:

“I think there is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.” said Madelyn Albright, former secretary of state , speaking at a “Celebrating Inspiration” luncheon in 2006.

> **[Albright empowers WNBA All-Stars](https://www.espn.com/wnba/columns/story?id=2517642)**
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> WNBA players are receptive to Albright's call to help fellow women.

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/9 "2014-02-20T22:52:10Z")

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–Just as long as it isn’t that\*\*\* other\*\*\* special hell. The one reserved for child molesters, and people who talk at the theater.

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/10 "2014-02-20T23:00:16Z")

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I should mention that Jeff is a biker guy in his fifties, who had the sweetest mother ever. She would have been the one who mentioned the whole God/heaven thing to him. (He’s not a Christian either, though.) So I can kinda see where it may not ever have entered his head that girls, potentially, can go to hell. (Ha ha, even when they’re _ **told to** _!)

Yannow. Since they didn’t used to drive Harleys and stuff.

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/11 "2014-02-20T23:03:14Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Maybe, for Jeff, hell is by definition the absence of women. 😃

True enough!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/12 "2014-02-21T02:30:16Z")

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"Wow, that woman is _hot!_ "

“It’s all the hellfire.”

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/13 "2014-02-21T04:21:35Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Maybe, for Jeff, hell is by definition the absence of women. 😃

Or, Don Juan’s version of hell: Where all the whiskey bottles have holes in the bottom and the women don’t.

(Joke told by crusty old male supervisor, in the presence of mixed company, back in the day when one could get away with saying something like that in the workplace.)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/14 "2014-02-21T04:22:39Z")

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Or, the Muslim version of heaven: They never mentioned that those 72 virgins have to _remain virgins!_

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/15 "2014-02-21T04:25:15Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Or, the Muslim version of heaven: They never mentioned that those 72 virgins have to _remain virgins!_

They never mentioned why they were virgins. I find the implications ominous…

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/16 "2014-02-21T04:48:32Z")

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“Women… can’t live with 'em… can’t shoot 'em.” – Ivan Turgenev

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/17 "2014-02-21T13:37:13Z")

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Dante put some women in hell, though if memory serves, only in the uppermost levels.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/18 "2014-02-21T20:36:52Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> Suddenly Jeff says, “Wait – girls go to Hell too?”

Only the pretty ones. All dogs go to heaven 😛

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/19 "2014-02-21T21:16:49Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> Suddenly Jeff says, “Wait – girls go to Hell too?”
> 
> Being a girl, I felt pretty confident fielding that one.
> 
> “Yes, of course they do,” I said, running briefly over my more rambunctious past activities in my mind, and feeling relieved that I’m not a Christian. “What made you think they wouldn’t?”
> 
> “It’s not that I thought they wouldn’t, I just never pictured it.”

Next you’ll be telling me they poop, too.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damned-women/681815/20 "2014-02-22T00:58:14Z")

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When women enter middle age, it gives men a pause.
