# Damnit, THAT's how I lose my 4.0 GPA?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 12, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227 "2010-05-12T21:53:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/21 "2010-05-13T02:54:05Z")
What colleges do you folks attend? PE as a college requirement would be a joke around here, even the student athletes have to take the same courses as everybody else. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/22 "2010-05-13T03:38:20Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > The thing is, I’m not that bad at bowling. The class was graded purely on attendance. I just didn’t show up enough. :smack: Over the line! I’m sorry **Monkey** , your lack of attendance was over the line. That’s a B. This is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. This is college. This determines who becomes the next generation of world leaders. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/23 "2010-05-13T04:12:49Z")
I feel bad, but I actually got an A in a PE class I never showed up for. I didn’t expect to get it, and was surprised. I’d have felt bad about taking the credit, but I also had a PE class I showed up for all the time, did all the work, but, because I miscalculated, ans did not get the exact required number of hours at the gym and got an F. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/24 "2010-05-13T04:53:53Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > Over the line! I’m sorry **Monkey** , your lack of attendance was over the line. That’s a B. This is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. This is college. This determines who becomes the next generation of world leaders. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? God damn you **Autolycus**. You fuckin’ asshole. Everything’s a fucking travesty with you, man. And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the _fuck_ has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about? Also, my rug was stolen. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/25 "2010-05-13T05:03:40Z")
Have the class deleted from your record. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/26 "2010-05-13T06:56:41Z")
> [@Charley](#): > > Bowling? They have classes in bowling? I opted for Pocket Billiards myself. We had bowling though. My sister took Ultimate Frisbee. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/27 "2010-05-13T09:18:05Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > God damn you **Autolycus**. You fuckin’ asshole. Everything’s a fucking travesty with you, man. And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the _fuck_ has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about? > > Also, my rug was stolen. Pity. It really tied the room together. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/28 "2010-05-13T09:25:08Z")
> [@koeeoaddi](#): > > I lost mine for an elective ceramics class. Went to every class, completed every project and yet I got a C. It seems I hadn’t put enough ‘spiritual energy’ into my pots. ☹ This pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/29 "2010-05-13T09:44:47Z")
What else is part of a core curriculum in American universities? Is a PE requirement the norm, or is this unusual? How long do you have to keep PE classes up for? ---
**Author:** ![congodwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/30 "2010-05-13T10:59:58Z")
Ya know, I spent about 3 hours this morning looking at course requirements for Worcester State College. If my financial aid comes through, I’ll be going to a community college in the fall and should be ready to transfer to WSC in Fall of 2011. I wanted to see which classes I should take at the CC so that I wouldn’t find out after the fact that my classes wont transfer with me. So, because of this, I just happen to have the general requirements written down. 6 credits English Comp 3 Credits Math 3 Credits Constitutions (it says US and MA constitutions but I think it’s either) Group 1 Humanities 12 credits (english, foreign language, history, philosophy, communications) Group 2 Behavioral and Social Sciences 12 credits (Cult. geography, economics, education, political science, sociology, urban studies) Group 3 Natural Science and Math 13 credits (Biology, Chemistry, geology, physical geography, math, natural science, physics) Group 4 Fine Arts 9 credits (art, communications, music, theater, visual and performing arts) Group 5 Heath 3 credits ( **either 1 health class or 3 activities**. I’m assuming activities are sports) Those are the core requirements. The major/minor requirements are much more interesting. When it comes time for me to take care of Group 5, I’ll be taking a health class. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/31 "2010-05-13T12:40:51Z")
Lost my 4.0 in junior high because of a B in Driver’s Ed in ninth grade. I once forgot to put the car into gear after I started it, and stepped on the accelerator. When the car wouldn’t go, I thought I wasn’t pressing it hard enough and really _ROOM ROOM_’ed that sucker. The instructor thought I was being a smartass. Well, I \*was \*a smartass, just not that time. ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/32 "2010-05-13T13:19:21Z")
I’m in nursing school too. I just got final grades - I took my stellar GPA down by getting a C in Nutrition. Here’s what sucks though - I had an A+ and I know the information backwards and forwards, but it’s an online class and I missed the window to submit one of the tests so I lost 100 points. Sucks, but I figure at this point no one is going to be asking what I made in Nutrition when they want their pain meds. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/33 "2010-05-13T13:43:53Z")
Christ, I have this exact same nightmare every so often. Except not about the bowling. I’ll dream there’s a class I’ve signed up for, but I haven’t done the work, and I haven’t been going to class, and the final is tomorrow, and I can’t find the classroom. Stupid brain. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/34 "2010-05-13T13:53:35Z")
> [@ShelliBean](#): > > Sucks, but I figure at this point no one is going to be asking what I made in Nutrition when they want their pain meds. Yeah, but what if you get this patient: > [@Jackmannii](#): > > When I’m in the hospital, I’ll want a nurse attuned to patient care. And that means having a controlled hook and great action on the pins. A 200 average, minimum. I’ll throw the damn bowling ball in there to remove his catheter, but I’m not sure my aims that great. Maybe I do need remedial classes. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/35 "2010-05-13T14:03:51Z")
This is why I purposely got a “B” in my first semester of college. Got it over with and moved on from there. Then I got some “C’s” and a “D” in later semesters and adjusted my expectations accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/36 "2010-05-13T15:02:11Z")
We had to take PE in college in Ohio. I took bowling (got an A of course, how could you get anything but?) and archery. Sure beat high school where I took “Wellness.” \*\*Many \*\*years ago when my mom was in college she took fencing. Dang, wish they had that at my college! ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/37 "2010-05-13T15:05:28Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I feel bad, but I actually got an A in a PE class I never showed up for. I didn’t expect to get it, and was surprised. Me too. I stopped showing up when the prof lost one of my written tests, then forgot to withdraw until it was too late. I think he felt bad for losing the test. ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/38 "2010-05-13T15:14:55Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > My husband graduated with a 3.49 because he failed Tai Chi in the last quarter of his senior year. Waitaminutehere…failed TAI CHI? Did he move too quickly? Did he actually hit someone? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/39 "2010-05-13T15:16:57Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Christ, I have this exact same nightmare every so often. Except not about the bowling. I’ll dream there’s a class I’ve signed up for, but I haven’t done the work, and I haven’t been going to class, and the final is tomorrow, and I can’t find the classroom. Stupid brain. I have this dream _all the time_. I graduated high school with a 3.97 GPA because of fucking AP English. The reason this sucks is because I was an excellent English student. It was a 2-year course and I was the first junior in the history of the school to earn 5s on both AP tests. I got an A- because of a stupid fucking class exam I didn’t study for because my psychotic mother was giving me living hell the night before. The thing that really pisses me off is that our valedictorian also got an A- in the class, but she and her mother went and whined to get the teacher to change the grade, whereas I just took it. And then – and THEN – she ended up getting the Senior AP English award, and my teacher said to me, ‘‘I thought you should get it, but some people [read: her mother] didn’t agree because you only took one year of AP English.’’ Nevermind the fact that I only took one year of AP English BECAUSE I SMOKED THE FUCKING EXAMS THE FIRST YEAR and it would have been a waste of my goddamn time. Our Valedictorian was an absolutely brilliant and gifted person who could run circles around me in math and science, but she was NOT, I repeated NOT a better English student than me. I may still have some feelings about this. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227/40 "2010-05-13T15:20:09Z")
I’m surprised the PE courses give grades to non-PE/recreation majors. Why not just make them pass/fail? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damnit-thats-how-i-lose-my-4-0-gpa/539227.md?page=3)