# Damuri Ajashi, you are a moronic troglodyte of a crackpot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099 "2012-02-17T03:28:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/181 "2018-10-19T14:09:50Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t quite agree.

Quite?

> [@BigT](#):
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> I think line by line is sometimes useful

Ah, hence the “quite”, ok.

> [@BigT](#):
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> But

There’s always a “but”.

> [@BigT](#):
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> . . .it needs to be used sparingly.

You do not define “sparingly”.

> [@BigT](#):
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> **Not only is it annoying to read** ,

Bolding mine.

> [@BigT](#):
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> it makes it very easy to fall into a “tactic” _as I call it_.

Italics mine.

> [@BigT](#):
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> You can easily wind up just deconstructing the post while not actually refuting the underlying argument.

What underlying argument?

> [@BigT](#):
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> It can create the illusion of a refutation without actually refuting everything, as a post is more than the sum of its parts.

That’s deep.

> [@BigT](#):
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> I’ve definitely seen this used intentionally, focusing on small, inconsequential problems in the post while ignoring the underlying argument.

Reported.

> [@BigT](#):
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> I’m currently attempting to notice these tactics and point them out.

Well, you certainly won’t see _me_ doing this foolishness.

> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t yet know if it’s working or just making things worse.

Well, get back to us when you have more data.

> [@BigT](#):
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> In an ideal world, it would help, but this isn’t an ideal world.

😃

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/182 "2020-09-11T00:55:22Z")

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Oh, wow! When I resurrected the “Are you a racist?” pit thread, I had no idea this racist turd already had his own thread! Now I feel less bad about putting him on ignore.

@damuriajashi

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/183 "2020-09-13T20:24:14Z")

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He’s definitely one of the most tiresome dumbshits on the board, although **DemonTree** is making a hard push for the title.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/184 "2020-09-14T20:11:28Z")

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Idiot does think now that calling it GIGObuster’s logic means that his stupid arguments will become logical now.

Logic does not belong to me exclusively. It is still illogical to ignore that Torture does not work in general, some times torturers can make it work, but it is a crap shoot, made more so because many times there are leaders abusing power. It leads to torturers that are primed to get false information that supports a dictator’s narrative.

It is then **illogical** to think that just demonstrating one example of torture working that therefore: torture works.

And the Damury logic seen now is only showing that for him it is logical to ignore new research and evidence that shows that a few papers that did not have better data does not make them the final word in a subject.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/185 "2020-09-14T20:16:32Z")

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@GIGObuster, even if @damuriajashi never learns, at least we have, right? I am just going to continue to do my best not to acknowledge the turd outside its proper place.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/186 "2020-09-14T21:18:30Z")

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Wow, this post is so thirsty.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/187 "2020-09-14T21:19:14Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Logic does not belong to me exclusively.

Or at all.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/188 "2020-09-14T21:19:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> He’s definitely one of the most tiresome dumbshits on the board, although **DemonTree** is making a hard push for the title.

You still butthurt about being stupid?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/189 "2020-09-14T21:27:41Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> @GIGObuster, even if @damuriajashi never learns, at least we have, right? I am just going to continue to do my best not to acknowledge the turd outside its proper place.

I agree, in the meantime I see that the idiot **does really think** that saying that “torture works” means the same as if torture is effective. It is not.

> **[Science Shows That Torture Doesn't Work](https://www.newsweek.com/science-shows-torture-doesnt-work-456854)**
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> Sleep deprivation and waterboarding can damage brain function, leading victims to invent memories or cop to crimes they didn't commit.

Of course we can expect the idiot to still deny logic and evidence.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/190 "2020-09-14T21:37:23Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> Or at all.

Oh like when you thought that there was **the same** level of scientific evidence for AGW as there was for the scientific racists regarding genetical differences for intelligence among humans?

You were wrong.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/191 "2020-09-14T21:47:54Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Oh like when you thought that there was **the same** level of scientific evidence for AGW as there was for the scientific racists regarding genetical differences for intelligence among humans?
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> You were wrong.

Can you refresh my memory? I think intelligence is heritable but I don’t recall thinking this was due to race. But maybe i have blocked out my former racist notions. Can you provide a link to me saying that there is the same level of scientific evidence that one race is genetically less intelligent than another as there is for AGW?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/192 "2020-09-14T21:51:04Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> He’s definitely one of the most tiresome dumbshits on the board, although **DemonTree** is making a hard push for the title.

Now he does think that being able to use a simple search is the same as if I was thinking so much about him… 🤪 He must be so lonely.

And an ignorant of how simple searches work too, it is easy to figure out then if a poster did go for illogical and stupid ideas in the past when many other posters already concluded before about how inadequate the Demurer guy is. That and they did not know about the most recent thread to conclude how foolish he was/is.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/193 "2020-09-14T21:53:48Z")

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Well, there’s really nothing substantive for me to respond to, but good job finding “your place,” @damuriajashi.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/194 "2020-09-14T22:49:54Z")

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> [@damuriajashi](#):
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> You still butthurt about being stupid?

…yes. Yes, that’s it exactly. Good job!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/195 "2020-09-15T05:02:34Z")

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Damn Catchy thread title!

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/196 "2020-09-15T13:47:45Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Now he does think that being able to use a simple search is the same as if I was thinking so much about him… 🤪 He must be so lonely.
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> And an ignorant of how simple searches work too, it is easy to figure out then if a poster did go for illogical and stupid ideas in the past when many other posters already concluded before about how inadequate the Demurer guy is. That and they did not know about the most recent thread to conclude how foolish he was/is.

Can you use that simple search to find where I said that “there was **the same** level of scientific evidence for AGW as there was for the scientific racists regarding genetical differences for intelligence among humans?”

I’m trying to figure out if I am a racist or if you are a stupid fucktard who imagines racism in those who disagree with you and confuse your imagination with reality.

You dredged up an issue from the Bush era, you had to search back for that. It’s not the first thing that pops up on any “simple search” for my username. So yeah, you seem obsessed.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/197 "2020-09-15T15:30:12Z")

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Well thanks for showing up what a numbskull you are.

The search was only needed for your name and others that told you what a dunderhead you are.

I only needed to see the times we locked horns with you before and related subjects.

> [@Once again, a pitting of our local pseudo-scientific racialists](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/once-again-a-pitting-of-our-local-pseudo-scientific-racialists/646184/431):
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> Wrong, the evidence for AGW is overwhelming and experts do come even with reports on the probabilities: [http://www.ipcc.ch/publications\_and\_data/ar4/syr/en/spms2.html](http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/syr/en/spms2.html) What is “very likely” or “likely” here? The experts are using those terms with careful thought: [http://www.ipcc.ch/publications\_and\_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch1s1-6.html](http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch1s1-6.html) That BTW was the last IPCC report from a few years back, the latest is reported to come with even higher probabilities for problems to come. Now, if you are on soli…

Suffice to say, you do love to come to discussions with arguments from ignorance, and then double, triple down with them. And then willfully forget about how wrong you were then. That is then not just ignorance but assholery.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/198 "2020-09-15T15:51:18Z")

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Just another example, by entering another good critic of yours here, Banquet\_Bear, into the search and your name we get this nice example from Evil\_Economist dealing with your “logic”.

> [@New York Times hires unapologetic racist writer](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-york-times-hires-unapologetic-racist-writer/819086/979):
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> Just for fun, here’s a recent sampling of responses to \*\*Damuri’s \*\*posts: Does anyone else see a trend?

Followed by another post I made then showing how ignorant you and SlackerInc are. (Two for the price of one) A nice demonstration of how cranks gravitate towards each other.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/199 "2020-09-15T17:11:13Z")

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I support this pitting.

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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/200 "2020-09-15T18:11:19Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Suffice to say, you do love to come to discussions with arguments from ignorance, and then double, triple down with them. And then willfully forget about how wrong you were then. That is then not just ignorance but assholery.

I think you you read that post in the context of the thread, it still looks pretty bad.  
I don’t think I held these views for very long but I might be mistaken.  
I did not understand how certain the science was on AGW until you pointed it out.  
It is clear that I did in fact subscribe to the notion that at least some of the differences in iq between racial groups could be explained by genetic differences between the groups.

All I can say is that a lot has happened in the last 7+ years. My thinking has evolved. I had been influenced by things like this wiki entry ([Race and intelligence - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Research_into_the_possible_genetic_influences_on_test_score_differences)) into a “both sides have their merits” sort of position and failed to recognize that you cannot adopt a neutral stance on this issue when the harm of believing in the differences in iq are due to genetics is so very great and the cost of assuming the opposite are so negligible, the burden of proof should not fall equally on both positions. One side has a fairly high burden of proof while the other does not. So I now believe that absent some compelling proof of that genetic differences are the source of significant differences in IQ, it is societally and policy-wise a better answer to assume that these genetic differences do not exist.

If you think I’m being too easy on myself on this point, please continue to roast me, I won’t fight back. I thought you had confused my statements about the scientific consensus about agw and the equally high consensus about the validity of testing.

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