# Damuri Ajashi, you are a moronic troglodyte of a crackpot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099 "2012-02-17T03:28:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/161 "2018-10-18T18:41:39Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> I can’t say I disagree. **iiandyiiii** displays a narcissistic style of advocacy which disregards concerns of other disadvantaged groups who don’t align with his prejudices. As a recent example, his participation in a thread that included **Huey Freeman** ridiculing much of the autistic spectrum as the new great white hope hoisted by its own petard shows us where his priorities are. The question is what _can’t_ Huey get away with with someone like this beyond offending the obvious classes. That is why I treat him (andy) like a young child and never attempt to reason with him.
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> Or consider his thread last year on transgender folks in the military. He said banning them from service is dangerous for national security. I respect that opinion. But where in the several pages of that thread was any mention on behalf of all the people who have minor physical or mental flaws who are still often capable yet discriminated against and not permitted to serve? He wants the military to be inclusive as possible. I’ll eat my hat if he has ever made a single post in his history here about those folks!

Assuming this is a serious post, I think what **Huey** said about autistic people is pretty awful (though I’m far from an expert on autism), and I don’t think the military should discriminate against those with minor disabilities who can still serve capably. And I’m pretty sure I’ve never posted anything that would conflict with those sentiments.

But don’t let my actual words distract you from _how dangerous I am_.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/162 "2018-10-18T18:51:22Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Assuming this is a serious post…

That’s a dangerous assumption. Possibly the most dangerous assumption on this board.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/163 "2018-10-18T18:57:44Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> That’s a dangerous assumption. Possibly the most dangerous assumption on this board.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Uh, iiandyiiii, uh…wh…what’s your m-m-mmmmmiddle name?

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/164 "2018-10-18T19:02:45Z")

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This just reminds me that I made a satirical post back on page five of the Trump Administration Clusterfuck thread in the style of Brietbart where I speculated that Trump was afraid of Russian mobsters and would do Putin’s bidding.

> [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/245):
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> Well, let me go off in Breitbart-type journalism:
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> Trump owes millions to Russians overseas and the Russian mob is there to enforce collection, if they are not the lenders directly. New York City construction? I’m sure he had interactions on some level. Maybe Trump is afraid of his creditors when it’s the Russian mob and they tell him they’ll be putting bullets in his children’s heads if he doesn’t make good.
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> How does he make good? By getting elected and by being Putin’s bitch and getting the Syrian economic sanctions removed so ExxonMobile and Russia can make billions together.
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> And, as a bonus, appointing anti-global warming deniers to key positions will just open the Arctic to drilling as fast as possible!
> 
> See!
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> That’s how easy it is to come up with some wackadoole conspiracy theory to explain what the people you disagree with are doing!
> 
> Connect the dot. Sheeple! (Parody of Trump supporters was intended; purchase of cape does not allow user to fly).

Some responses to comments generated by that post by **Damuri Ajashi** :

\*"In what way am I a Donald apologist. IIRC You are responding to the notion that Donald Trump the POTUS-elect is going to do the bidding of Russia because he might owe money to some Russian banks. Do you seriously think that notion deserves serious consideration or do you think that it is inappropriate for me to point out the dangers of crying wolf and being fucking wrong, again.

What are you going to say in 2 or 3 years when it turns out that Trump ISN’T actually a Manchurian candidate in thrall to Putin? The Liberal hyperventilation just makes it easier to dismiss any actual concerns we might have about Trump."

“Are you fucking seriously entertaining the notion that POTUS can be blackmailed with threats of force against his family? By the Russian mob??? Are you fucking kidding me? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post retarded shit like this?”\*

Now that we’re almost two years into Trump’s administration, I don’t think we can rule out that he’s a Manchurian candidate and is doing Putin’s bidding because Trump is in thrall to Putin, who I’ve heard described as being the de facto head of the Russian mob.

Undermine NATO, roll over and show his belly to Putin in front of the world in Helsinki after his secret meeting with no US officials present, side with Putin over US intelligence over election meddling, bitch about signing Congress’s veto-proof Russian sanctions bill, and, unlike with anyone else in the world (saving maybe the Saudi king and crown prince at the moment), never say a negative thing about Putin.

Trump has always been for sale and Putin and the Saudis have bought him.

And, oh yeah, climate change will fix itself so why do anything about it.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/165 "2018-10-18T19:02:51Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> But don’t let my actual words distract you from _how dangerous I am_.

Of course you are! I have read that hippos kill more people each year than sharks, lions, elephants, leopards, buffaloes and rhinos combined.

🙂 😉

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/166 "2018-10-18T19:31:00Z")

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He could word it out like a dangerous man  
How could you value his intentions  
iiandyiiii had the devil just like anyone can  
He spoke words they were frightened to mention.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/167 "2018-10-18T19:37:01Z")

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While we’re here I’ll chime in with what a worthless tool Damuri is. His longwinded screeds drip ignorance, and he does that line-by-line thing that’s so annoying.

…And in that thread, you have Banquet Bear and Mr Dibble line-by-lining Damuri’s line-by-lining, and him line-by-lining their line-by-lining of his line-by-lining, and it’s fucking unbearable. The thread is basically ruined.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/168 "2018-10-18T19:44:47Z")

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Ha ha! I’ll never stop line-by-lining.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/169 "2018-10-18T20:01:35Z")

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It’s called \*[Fisking](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fisking)\*and it is annoying.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/170 "2018-10-18T20:04:38Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> It’s called \*[Fisking](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fisking)\*and it is annoying.

But is it _dangerous?_

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/171 "2018-10-18T20:05:14Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> It’s called \*[Fisking](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fisking)\*and it is annoying.

To you. To me, it is glorious!

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/172 "2018-10-18T20:31:49Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> …And in that thread, you have Banquet Bear and Mr Dibble line-by-lining Damuri’s line-by-lining, and him line-by-lining their line-by-lining of his line-by-lining, and it’s fucking unbearable. The thread is basically ruined.

…I have to admit: in [this particular thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812273&page=16) maybe we went a bit too far. 😃 (Scroll down to read: or not. Probably best not!) I was astonished he kept going, and even I didn’t have enough energy to keep the exchange going.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/173 "2018-10-18T20:46:30Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I have to admit: in [this particular thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812273&page=16) maybe we went a bit too far. 😃 (Scroll down to read: or not. Probably best not!) I was astonished he kept going, and even I didn’t have enough energy to keep the exchange going.

That’s how Damuri “wins” on the Internets…he beats you by winning the war of attrition. I don’t think I’ve posted about gun control since.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/174 "2018-10-18T20:55:47Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …I have to admit: in [this particular thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812273&page=16) maybe we went a bit too far. 😃 (Scroll down to read: or not. Probably best not!) I was astonished he kept going, and even I didn’t have enough energy to keep the exchange going.

I am sending you the medical bill for fixing my bleeding eyeballs.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/175 "2018-10-18T21:17:15Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> It’s called \*[Fisking](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fisking)\*and it is annoying.

Real question: have you changed your opinion on that over the past 3 years? Because you used to encourage tit for tat discussions with me before you were a mod.

This isn’t a pitting, btw, more a question about taste. Line by line stuff usually distracts from the broader issues and themes, IMHO, and is typically not best practice. Line by line does have the (small, IMHO) advantage of not distorting positions to some extent, at the hefty cost of big-picture clarity.

Yes, fisking is one extreme. That’s why I’m asking.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/176 "2018-10-18T21:39:37Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Real question: have you changed your opinion on that over the past 3 years? Because you used to encourage tit for tat discussions with me before you were a mod.
> 
> This isn’t a pitting, btw, more a question about taste. Line by line stuff usually distracts from the broader issues and themes, IMHO, and is typically not best practice. Line by line does have the (small, IMHO) advantage of not distorting positions to some extent, at the hefty cost of big-picture clarity.
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> Yes, fisking is one extreme. That’s why I’m asking.

My take is line by line is annoying. Separating out multiple ideas is good. Longer complex posts may require longer complex responses, so it really just depends. I’m not going to call out any one off thing that isn’t related to a general theme. Sometimes though, the theme is that you’re wrong 🙂

Almost as bad as Fisking, is “best practices”. That’s not a real thing 😛

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/177 "2018-10-18T22:15:46Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Almost as bad as Fisking, is “best practices”. That’s not a real thing 😛

[Grin noted, but “Best practices” is my code word for better posting strategies that fall outside of the range of what deserves mod attention. I’ve argued that we need more of that sort of discussion in ATMB, and less of what constitutes properly moderated behavior. If there’s a better term, my ears are open. If we can argue about what sort of posts are too obnoxious, we can discuss membership driven strategies for promoting quality discussion.

Self policing is the best sort of policing, and good citizenship is even better. ]

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/178 "2018-10-19T03:01:53Z")

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I don’t quite agree. I think line by line is sometimes useful when you want to draw attention to how every single bit of what someone said is wrong. But it needs to be used sparingly.

Not only is it annoying to read, just from a style perspective, but it makes it very easy to fall into a “tactic” as I call it. You can easily wind up just deconstructing the post while not actually refuting the underlying argument. It can create the illusion of a refutation without actually refuting everything, as a post is more than the sum of its parts.

I’ve definitely seen this used intentionally, focusing on small, inconsequential problems in the post while ignoring the underlying argument.

I’m currently attempting to notice these tactics and point them out. I don’t yet know if it’s working or just making things worse. In an ideal world, it would help, but this isn’t an ideal world.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/179 "2018-10-19T07:07:07Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’m currently attempting to notice these tactics and point them out.

Truly, we have much to learn from you.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/damuri-ajashi-you-are-a-moronic-troglodyte-of-a-crackpot/613099/180 "2018-10-19T08:45:35Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> **Huey Freeman** ridiculing much of the autistic spectrum

Wow. I always knew **Huey Freeman** was effectively a White supremacist, but that’s another twist to the turd.

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