# Dan Brown, ianzin & Cecil

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports
**Created:** [November 27, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938 "2007-11-27T18:54:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/1 "2007-11-27T18:54:15Z")

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Talking about [this](http://straightdope.com/mailbag/mnlp.html) new staff report, I was surprised to get to the end and find it _was_ a staff report.

It read like one of Cecil’s pieces for the most part. I really enjoyed it.

Except:

> [@ianzin](#):
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> …and impossible to cover adequately in a short (if rapidly lengthening) article such as this.

I don’t think Cecil would ever comment on the length of his articles being too short or too long, they just _are_.

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### Author: ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/2 "2007-11-27T19:18:26Z")

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Hehe. It’s _Darren_ Brown. I clicked on the link expecting another trashing of _The Da Vinci Code_.

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### Author: ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/3 "2007-11-28T00:15:21Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
Hehe. It’s _Darren_ Brown. I clicked on the link expecting another trashing of _The Da Vinci Code_.  
[/QUOTE]

What can I say except :smack: ?

For the Record, I liked The Da Vinci Code.

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### Author: ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/4 "2007-11-28T00:25:26Z")

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Just for the record, it’s actually **Derren** Brown. Not Darren.

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### Author: ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/5 "2007-11-28T01:25:17Z")

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And, **ianzin** , congrats on a fantastic Staff Report!

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/6 "2007-11-28T01:32:30Z")

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[QUOTE=ianzin]  
Just for the record, it’s actually **Derren** Brown. Not Darren.  
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That’s right. **Dorian** Brown. Derek.

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### Author: ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/7 "2007-11-28T01:42:13Z")

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I’ve been asked to correct the title, but since there’s already been jokes about it, I’m going to leave it as is. Anything for a laugh.

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### Author: ![Rhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhubarb)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/8 "2007-11-28T03:13:38Z")

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**Ianzin** , I really liked the article about Derwood Brown and NLP. I especially liked how you were able to get through the entire article without using terms like “bullshit”, “hogwash”, or “load of crap”. You have remarkable restraint.

FTR, I know, I know, it’s really _Darnell_ Brown.

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### Author: ![John\_W.Kennedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_w.kennedy/32/1031_2.png) [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/9 "2007-11-28T03:22:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Rhubarb]  
I especially liked how you were able to get through the entire article without using terms like “bullshit”, “hogwash”, or “load of crap”.  
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But we’ve already established that it isn’t _Dan_ Brown…

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### Author: ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/10 "2007-11-28T05:58:09Z")

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[QUOTE=essell]  
It read like one of Cecil’s pieces for the most part. I really enjoyed it.  
[/QUOTE]  
I am of course deeply honoured that you should think my humble screed about NLP and Doris Brown comes close to the quality of the answers provided by The One. Thank you.

Unfortunately for you, this suggestion borders on SDMB heresy. I would not be at all surprised if, in the middle of the night, you hear a knock at the door…

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### Author: ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/11 "2007-11-28T13:57:04Z")

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[QUOTE=ianzin]  
I would not be at all surprised if, in the middle of the night, you hear a knock at the door…  
[/QUOTE]  
Nonsense. We don’t knock.

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### Author: ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/12 "2007-11-28T14:03:59Z")

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[QUOTE=ianzin]  
I would not be at all surprised if, in the middle of the night, you hear a knock at the door…  
[/QUOTE]  
“Is _this_ your card?”

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### Author: ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/13 "2007-11-28T17:43:15Z")

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Are we talking about the same person as that guy who is known as Derryl Brown, from that show called Mind Control?

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### Author: ![nd\_n8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/439d5e/32.png) [@nd\_n8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nd_n8)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/14 "2007-11-28T20:50:37Z")

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It was a Cecilesque article, and I was not aware of Dominic Brown or NLP until I read it.

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/15 "2007-11-28T21:20:02Z")

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[QUOTE=nd\_n8]  
It was a Cecilesque article, and I was not aware of Dominic Brown or NLP until I read it.  
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That’s ‘Dontrell,’ with a ‘K.’

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### Author: ![PBear42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PBear42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PBear42)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/16 "2007-11-29T07:08:22Z")

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Here, I thought we were finally gonna get the skinny on Derwood (of Bewitched fame). Instead, just another expose of a placebo. Oh well.

Seriously, one of the best pieces, Cecil or otherwise, in the past year.

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### Author: ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/17 "2007-12-01T00:44:51Z")

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Did I hear someone talking about Dimwit Brown?

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### Author: ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2007, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/18 "2007-12-01T05:26:36Z")

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Am I being whooshed here? Why can’t anybody get a simple name like Derren Braun correct?

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### Author: ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2007, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/19 "2007-12-01T06:11:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Indistinguishable]  
Am I being whooshed here? Why can’t anybody get a simple name like Derren Braun correct?  
[/QUOTE]  
But it was only Dovry Kricfalusi in the old country\*. He changed it to Daniel Bering when he came here.

\*(He left because it reeked of trees.)

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### Author: ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-brown-ianzin-cecil/427938/20 "2013-03-10T22:23:05Z")

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I’m bumping this because, well, I laughed, and I think other fans of Dorothy Brown deserve to also.
