# Dan Savage for Dummies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855 "2011-06-09T15:05:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hamwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/0ea827/32.png) [@hamwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hamwater)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/1 "2011-06-09T15:05:35Z")
I have seen Dan Savage’s name mentioned here before and thought he might be an author I’d like I was at Barnes and Noble and looked him up but they had none of his books in stock so I will be getting them online. Since I won’t be able to flip through them I was hoping some of you who are familiar with him would offer your opinions of what his best books are, or if I should start in the order that they were written. Can you also tell me a little about him and his writing? I love David Sedaris and Bob Smith, is Dan Savage a similar writer? Thanks. Hammy ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/2 "2011-06-09T15:16:28Z")
Dan Savage is primarily known as a syndicated sex advice columnist. He is gay and has adopted a child with his partner. As far as I know all of his books are non-fiction dealing with various aspects of his life and/or collections of his columns. His recent project, in response to suicides of gay teenagers, has been the “It Gets Better” series of commercials, articles, etc. From that perspective, I’d recommend you read a few of his columns (available online in many places but i generally read them in the Onion’s AV Club section. For the books, I’d pick one that the subject seems intersting versus reading in any order. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/3 "2011-06-09T15:17:34Z")
I love his columns but found his books intensely boring, sorry to say. If you care about the mundanities of lives then they might be interesting, but it was a mistake for me to pick them up. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/4 "2011-06-09T15:18:10Z")
Dan Savage is a sex and relationship advice columnist who produces a regular written column and audio podcast called “Savage Love”. I am a fan of his but if you’re not familiar with his work you should be warned that a lot of it is _extremely_ explicit - he addresses everything from basic dating questions to the technical details of fisting. I haven’t read his books but based on his other writing if you like David Sedaris you’ll probably like them. He’s got one about the quest (Savage is gay) to adopt a child. Savage is also responsible for launching the [It Gets Better](http://www.itgetsbetter.org/) project, aimed at helping gay teens survive bullying and family abuse, as well as the whole “santorum” thing which I’ll let you Google (warning: icky). ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/5 "2011-06-09T15:22:17Z")
You can also read his column in _The Reader_, if they have it in your city. Not sure if they carry him on their website or not. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/6 "2011-06-09T15:54:27Z")
I enjoyed _Skipping Towards Gomorrah_. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/7 "2011-06-09T16:03:53Z")
I read his column every week, but I’ve only read one of his books, [Skipping Towards Gomorrah](http://www.amazon.com/Skipping-Towards-Gomorrah-Pursuit-Happiness/dp/0525946756). I did really like it though. I would certainly pick up another one, I just haven’t, yet. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/8 "2011-06-09T16:06:07Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > You can also read his column in _The Reader_, if they have it in your city. Not sure if they carry him on their website or not. He’s based in Seattle and his flagship paper is The Stranger, though he’s syndicated in independant papers all over (including The Reader). I believe if you go to The Stranger’s website, you can find archives of his column. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/9 "2011-06-09T16:07:25Z")
Yep, here’s [the Savage Love archive](http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?archives=all). Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/10 "2011-06-09T16:20:57Z")
His weekly podcasts are great. Check them out. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/11 "2011-06-09T16:58:36Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > He’s based in Seattle and his flagship paper is The Stranger, though he’s syndicated in independant papers all over (including The Reader). I believe if you go to The Stranger’s website, you can find archives of his column. Actually, I think he’s also the editor of The Stranger (although apparently I can’t go to the website while I’m at work). ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/12 "2011-06-09T18:03:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Actually, I think he’s also the editor of The Stranger (although apparently I can’t go to the website while I’m at work). The Editor of The Stranger is one Christopher Frizzelle. Dan Savage is not on the masthead, ie, has no editorial role whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/13 "2011-06-09T18:06:22Z")
As I said, I can’t get to the website while at work, but the Wikipedia article says that he was the editor from April 2001 until September 2007. Actually, now I can get to the site. He’s listed as editorial director. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/14 "2011-06-09T18:14:47Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > As I said, I can’t get to the website while at work, but the Wikipedia article says that he was the editor from April 2001 until September 2007. > > Actually, now I can get to the site. He’s listed as editorial director. Um, okay, nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/15 "2011-06-09T18:25:34Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > The Editor of The Stranger is one Christopher Frizzelle. That’s just his Snoop Dogg name. ---
**Author:** ![QuarkChild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c5a1d2/32.png) [@QuarkChild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuarkChild)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/16 "2011-06-09T19:46:27Z")
There seems to be two different Dan Savages. I’ve read two of his books (The Kid and The Commitment). I liked both those books. However, they seem nothing like his columns. His columns are very confrontational and explicit. His books are like, “So then Terry and I had breakfast, and Terry made me delete the next two sentences.” There’s nothing explicit, and while occasionally the books seem to present an agenda, they aren’t nearly as in-your-face. I suspect this might be Terry’s influence–maybe Dan is trying to respect Terry’s privacy–but for whatever reason, the books seem very toned down, and therefore less entertaining than his columns. Just my 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/17 "2011-06-10T01:15:21Z")
> [@QuarkChild](#): > > There seems to be two different Dan Savages. I’ve read two of his books (The Kid and The Commitment). I liked both those books. However, they seem nothing like his columns. His columns are very confrontational and explicit. His books are like, “So then Terry and I had breakfast, and Terry made me delete the next two sentences.” There’s nothing explicit, and while occasionally the books seem to present an agenda, they aren’t nearly as in-your-face. I suspect this might be Terry’s influence–maybe Dan is trying to respect Terry’s privacy–but for whatever reason, the books seem very toned down, and therefore less entertaining than his columns. > > Just my 2 cents. That’s probably correct, since _Skipping Toward Gomorrah_, which ISN’T about his life with Terry and their son, is closer to the style of “Savage Love”. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/18 "2011-06-10T02:12:44Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > That’s just his Snoop Dogg name. I love this post. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/19 "2011-06-10T02:20:51Z")
+1 for reading his columns. If you have a cell phone you can download the Savage Love app, and it archives a LOT of his columns, complete with clicky words relating to the post you just read in case one of them appeals to you and you want to find more on that subject. I will certainly pick up Skipping to Gomorrah myself. ---
**Author:** ![Improvisor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/50afbb/32.png) [@Improvisor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improvisor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855/20 "2011-06-10T04:57:38Z")
He was on a ‘Live’ episode of _This American Life_ a few years back here in Seattle. He told a really great story about his own life. Well worth the 15 minutes to listen to it. It gives you a sense of what he is like outside of his sex column persona. You can listen to it here (Act Four. My Other Dog’s A German Shepherd): > **[What I Learned from Television - This American Life](https://www.thisamericanlife.org/328/what-i-learned-from-television)** > > Stories recorded during our 2007 live tour, by Sarah Vowell, David Rakoff, Dan Savage, and others. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dan-savage-for-dummies/584855.md?page=2)