# Dancing on the grave of health care "reform"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 3, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487 "2010-02-03T04:17:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/921 "2010-03-23T03:53:49Z")

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Anyway, this should be of interest to the OP:

Summary Box: Health stocks give market a boost

Seems the Dow was up 44 points today, with most of the gains in the health services sector. How could that be, what with this bill supposedly bankrupting the country and all?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/922 "2010-03-23T04:15:08Z")

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> [@blinkie](#):
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> You can stop dancing now!

Tragically, it turns out he can’t. He didn’t notice it when he began (or didn’t appreciate the significance of the fact), but he was wearing red shoes when he posted the OP.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/923 "2010-03-23T04:41:21Z")

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From when his mom got hit by that house?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/924 "2010-03-23T04:59:51Z")

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I think I can score a triple entendre simply by posting a different link to [War Pigs](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vv1r_vietnam-war-pigs_creation).

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/925 "2010-03-23T17:09:01Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Oh, for the love of God.  
> _\<snipped for space\>_  
> In short, you’re a goddamned moron.

_slow clap_

It’s a shame you can’t see someone give a standing ovation over the internet. That was lovely, **Drain Bead**.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/926 "2010-03-23T17:39:12Z")

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It’s a shame you lack the pseudo-intelligence to come up with a, ahem, brain dead post like that yourself. It was so full of wrongheadedness and typical liberal knee-jerk assumption that I couldn’t arse myself take the time to answer it.

I’ll give you a quick example. Remember when she said, “And you know who are the only people who complain about others pointing out racism? Racists.”

See how she responded in exactly the way I said that liberals think? Notice the presumption that people “pointing out racism” are always correct. Notice the assumption that false or erroneous accusations of racism are never made. And notice how there can be no legitimate reason in her mind to disagree with _any_ liberal charge of racism.

Lefties in this thread are doing a most excellent job of showing the very inflexibility, hatred and intolerance for any view not their own that I’ve been accusing them of. It’s really pretty amusing to see so many lefties here so eagerly demonstrating the very behavior they’re trying so hard to deny.

But since her post ended by calling me a moron (like approx. 5,800,00 other posts around here directed at right-wingers) I’m sure you think it’s genius. What you don’t realize is that this speaks more to your lack of intelligence than it does to whatever you regard as hers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/927 "2010-03-23T17:46:49Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> …since her post ended by calling me a moron (like approx. 5,800,00 other posts around here directed at right-wingers)

_…since her post ended by calling me a moron (like approx. 5,800,00 other posts around here directed at **Starving Artist** )_

Fixed that for you.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/928 "2010-03-23T17:51:48Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> But since her post ended by calling me a moron (like approx. 5,800,00 other posts around here directed at right-wingers) I’m sure you think it’s genius. What you don’t realize is that this speaks more to your lack of intelligence than it does to whatever you regard as hers.

Now, now, I called you a mendacious nincompoop, not a moron. Also, I don’t call you that because you’re a right-winger, I call you that because you’re a mendacious nincompoop.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/929 "2010-03-23T17:53:17Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> …since her post ended by calling me a moron (like approx. 5,800,00 other posts around here directed at **Starving Artist** )
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> Fixed that for you.

- golf clap \*

_tokes_ Wow! That was brilliant, dude! How _ever_ do you think these things up?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/930 "2010-03-23T17:57:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Now, now, I called you a mendacious nincompoop, not a moron. Also, I don’t call you that because you’re a right-winger, I call you that because you’re a mendacious nincompoop.

Wow! The wit is flying hot and heavy today. Maybe you guys could get a spot on Letterman’s show…Nah, his audience is too cerebral. Maybe Leno’s show.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/931 "2010-03-23T18:01:56Z")

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What makes you think I was trying to be witty?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/932 "2010-03-23T18:02:27Z")

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If I was going to start a a new religion, **Drain Bead** would be my Pope.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/933 "2010-03-23T18:05:38Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Wow! The wit is flying hot and heavy today. Maybe you guys could get a spot on Letterman’s show…Nah, his audience is too cerebral. Maybe Leno’s show.

No, in your honor, it would be the Tonight show with Steve Allen, or perhaps Jack Paar. That was back when humor knew it’s place, and kids kept off your lawn.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/934 "2010-03-23T18:06:00Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What makes you think I was trying to be witty?

Now that I think about it, you’re right. No point trying to draw from an empty well.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/935 "2010-03-23T18:08:59Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> - golf clap \*
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> _tokes_ Wow! That was brilliant, dude! How _ever_ do you think these things up?

I’m like Michaelangelo. I don’t create the joke. I just let it out.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/936 "2010-03-23T18:09:10Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> No, in your honor, it would be the Tonight show with Steve Allen, or perhaps Jack Paar. That was back when humor knew it’s place, and kids kept off your lawn.

There are plenty of kids on my lawn. They mow it, pick up whatever trash the wind has left, pick up the dog poop. You know, all the jobs you think you’re too good for.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/937 "2010-03-23T18:10:43Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I’m like Michaelangelo. I don’t create the joke. I just let it out.

Well, it isn’t having the intended effect. Might I suggest Imodium AD instead?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/938 "2010-03-23T18:11:20Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> But since her post ended by calling me a moron (like approx. 5,800,00 other posts around here directed at right-wingers) I’m sure you think it’s genius. What you don’t realize is that this speaks more to your lack of intelligence than it does to whatever you regard as hers.

No, we think it’s genius because she kicked your ass. Your utter inflexibility makes you incapable of even acknowledging that she- or anyone else who dares to contradict your worldview- might be correct in, well, anything.

With a few exceptions, there’s really not a lot of hatred of the right-wing on these forums. No, we save all of our hatred for people like you. Hell, you could rant daily on the horrors of the right-wing, you could blame Conservatives for the downfall of civilization, and we’d \*still \*hate you. Or perhaps “hate” is too strong a word. Personally, all I fear is pity mixed with a bit of amazement at your continued fear of a Liberal world- you simply don’t inspire that strong a reaction in me at all.

I seriously suspect you’ve got some sort of psychological issue, which causes you to blame Liberals for every social ailment, much like paranoiacs blame a shadowy “they”, and every attempt to prove to them that they’re wrong merely serves to reinforce that paranoia. I view you much as one might view a particularly rare insect- “Seriously, there are people that really think like that!?”

I have no delusions that anything we say will make the slightest dent in your “Damn Liberals” shell. However, that doesn’t mean that I won’t find every thread in which you- yet again- get your ass intellectually kicked absolutely hilarious.

Now, if you want to see real partisan hatred, I suggest you take a look at some other forums around the 'net. Hannity’s forums are a good example of right-wing hatred. I’m sure there’s a left-wing analogue somewhere. However, _this ain’t it_. The board may trend left, but it’s nowhere near the den of hatred you need to keep your persecution complex running.

As the motto goes, “It’s taking a lot longer than we thought”.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/939 "2010-03-23T18:19:07Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Now, if you want to see real partisan hatred, I suggest you take a look at some other forums around the 'net.

I suggest Free Republic. That site’s a black hole of hateful crazy. It’s where Peak Wingnut will first appear when it begins.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/940 "2010-03-23T18:20:34Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> No, we think it’s genius because she kicked your ass.

As flattering as it is that you seem to think genius is required to kick my ass, how about answering some of my charges instead of writing them off as psychological issues? And how are my rants any different that the jillions of similar rants that go on around here every day regarding conservatives and Republicans. You people are so remarkably thin-skinned, ideologically blind and (understandably) defensive that any accusation toward you even remotely as strong as those you routinely hurl at the right set you off into a babbling rage.

All I can say is the truth hurts, doesn’t it?

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