# Dancing on the grave of health care "reform" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 3, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487 "2010-02-03T04:17:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1061 "2010-03-26T03:31:25Z")
Awww yeah! 217-207! The weak-ass attempt to defeat the bill through the Senate parliamentarian has failed. Obamacare is completely and utterly enshrined into law! And there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell you guys can stop it! SA, how’s the feel of my fingers in your wallet? 😃 Ima takin’ yer money and there’s nothin’ you can do to stop me!!! 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1062 "2010-03-26T03:37:03Z")
So, what next? Do we round up all the guns, or mandatory gay marriages for Eagle Scouts? Or do we wait until the President for Life Amendment passes? ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1063 "2010-03-26T03:43:05Z")
Well, _next_ was a [little bit of help](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/25/congress-gives-college-ai_n_513838.html)headed for our college students. NOW, we can move onto the whole mandatory gay marriage for scouts thing. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1064 "2010-03-26T04:08:35Z")
Thank god for that. I strongly disapprove of the Scout lifestyle. Frankly, it’s icky and unnatural, and I can’t believe we expose our children to it. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1065 "2010-03-26T04:08:43Z")
Next up: Gay shotgun weddings! No, no – the spouse and spouse use the shotguns to blast the toasters that the guests toss into the air at the conclusion. Ahhhhhh… there’s nothing like the sound of “PULL!” … boom-boom … clatterclatterclatter … thunkclankthudskitter in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1066 "2010-03-26T12:28:08Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Next up: Gay shotgun weddings! > > No, no – the spouse and spouse use the shotguns to blast the toasters that the guests toss into the air at the conclusion. Ahhhhhh… there’s nothing like the sound of “PULL!” … boom-boom … clatterclatterclatter … thunkclankthudskitter in the morning. I was wondering what we were going to do with all the guns we confiscate. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1067 "2010-03-26T14:28:13Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I was wondering what we were going to do with all the guns we confiscate. Turn 'em into plowshares and farm pot with 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1068 "2010-03-26T14:37:09Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Awww yeah! 217-207! The weak-ass attempt to defeat the bill through the Senate parliamentarian has failed. Obamacare is completely and utterly enshrined into law! And there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell you guys can stop it! > > SA, how’s the feel of my fingers in your wallet? 😃 Ima takin’ yer money and there’s nothin’ you can do to stop me!!! 😃 😃 😃 Thanks for the reminder of one of the biggest contradictions in liberal “thought”: many liberals believe I am selfish and greedy for wanting to keep what I’ve earned, but they don’t believe they are selfish or greedy for wanting the government to take it from me to spend on them or a program they support. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1069 "2010-03-26T14:40:37Z")
We don’t want the government to spend it on us, dumb shit. Well, some of us do, of course, but not most. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1070 "2010-03-26T14:41:53Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Thanks for the reminder of one of the biggest contradictions in liberal “thought”: many liberals believe I am selfish and greedy for wanting to keep what I’ve earned, but they don’t believe they are selfish or greedy for wanting the government to take it from me to spend on them or a program they support. Thanks for reminding me why conservatives are so fucking tiresome: their complete failure to understand irony. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1071 "2010-03-26T14:43:04Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Thanks for the reminder of one of the biggest contradictions in liberal “thought”: many liberals believe I am selfish and greedy for wanting to keep what I’ve earned, but they don’t believe they are selfish or greedy for wanting the government to take it from me to spend on them or a program they support. Not sure how it is greedy or selfish for me to support the government funding a program that will not actually benefit me directly by taxing both myself and you. I say won’t benefit directly because apart from the overall societal benefits, I do get a fucking huge rush out of you being forced to part with your filthy lucre. But I would get that rush whatever the program was. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1072 "2010-03-26T15:07:23Z")
Buying penis enlargement pills for Ron Jeremy, perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1073 "2010-03-26T15:54:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, what next? Do we round up all the guns, or mandatory gay marriages for Eagle Scouts? Or do we wait until the President for Life Amendment passes? _Oooo! Oooo!_ Don’t forget that we’re gonna ban recreational fishing! And enroll everybody in one a them there muslim schools of atheism, too! Gosh, so many things to look forward to in the apocalypse! ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1074 "2010-03-26T16:54:17Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > We don’t want the government to spend it on us, dumb shit. Well, some of us do, of course, but not most. Hence the “or a program they support” part of my post, dumb shit. I know you think that everything you want the government to do is all sunshine and roses and would promote the betterment of humanity, but really it just comes down to who gets to decide what to do with a portion of my money (ie, me or you). ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1075 "2010-03-26T17:04:55Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Hence the “or a program they support” part of my post, dumb shit. I know you think that everything you want the government to do is all sunshine and roses and would promote the betterment of humanity, but really it just comes down to who gets to decide what to do with a portion of my money (ie, me or you). That’s not selfish though. It may be arrogant for me to assume I know better how to spend your (and my) money, but it isn’t selfish under any normal usage of the term. And to be honest, it isn’t really that arrogant. It’s accurate though. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1076 "2010-03-26T17:10:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Hence the “or a program they support” part of my post, dumb shit. I know you think that everything you want the government to do is all sunshine and roses and would promote the betterment of humanity, but really it just comes down to who gets to decide what to do with a portion of my money (ie, me or you). Well, it’s pretty clear that you’re too stupid to know what to do with your money, (I mean come on, gold plated golf clubs? $2000 chia pets?), so it is in your own best interests that others spend it for you. Sort of like if a mentally handicapped individual inherits a bunch of money, they have a Guardian who looks after the finances. My cites already proved this to you in another post, along with the fact that you fellate syphilitic donkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1077 "2010-03-26T17:31:40Z")
EP–insightful and entertaining as ever. Villa–the question is who gets to decide what to do with my money, me or a liberal. The liberal says it is selfish and greedy of me to want to decide, and I think it is equally selfish and greedy for liberals to want to decide. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1078 "2010-03-26T17:40:38Z")
Guess what, retard? It’s not just _your_ money. It’s my money, too. Nobody drafted a bill specifically targeting your wallet. Funny how I never hear you bitching about your money being taken to fund the military. We all pay for shit we might not necessarily agree with. It’s called living in a society. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1079 "2010-03-26T17:47:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Villa–the question is who gets to decide what to do with my money, me or a liberal. The liberal says it is selfish and greedy of me to want to decide, and I think it is equally selfish and greedy for liberals to want to decide. Which means you don’t understand what selfish and greedy mean. Which isn’t surprising, because you were hit by the stupid stick repeatedly as a child. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487/1080 "2010-03-26T17:49:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > So, what next? Do we round up all the guns, or mandatory gay marriages for Eagle Scouts? Or do we wait until the President for Life Amendment passes? Oh Dear, my wife is going to be really upset about this. ☹ Trail the eagle, Trail the eagle, climbing all the time… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-on-the-grave-of-health-care-reform/527487.md?page=55)