# Dancing with the Stars -- DWTS -- Fall 2012 -- All Stars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 27, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591 "2012-07-27T18:05:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/1 "2012-07-27T18:05:54Z")
[The cast – or most of it – has been announced.](http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/stars) Returning stars: Apolo Anton Onho Bristol Palin Drew Lachey Emmitt Smith Gilles Marini Helio Castroneves Joey Fatone Kelly Monaco Kirstie Alley Melissa Rycroft Pamela Anderson Shawn Johnson (That’s, what, six champs? Apolo, Drew, Emmitt, Helio, Kelly [contested], Shawn) The pros are: Anna, Chelsie, Cheryl, Derek, Karina, Kym, Maks, Mark, Peta, Tony, Tristan, and Val. There will be a 13th All-Star star,[chosen by viewer vote](http://vote-e.abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/vote/68f05e6a-06f0-45b2-9fb2-4b580f6a1c06): Carson Kressley, Kyle Massey, Sabrina Bryan. This could be a very interesting season. I’m not seeing partner assignments – wonder how they’ll do that? Can’t be by original partner, because several of those guys were partnered with Cheryl, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/2 "2012-07-27T19:11:01Z")
Good Lord, not Carson Kressley. He’s just not a dancer. I don’t think Brostol Palin deserves to be there, but she did consistantly improve. But to put her up against Gilles, Helio and Apolo Anton Ohno? Not even close. I think Sabrina should be in there - she was a great dancer eliminated before her time. StG ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/3 "2012-07-27T20:19:18Z")
Bristol, Pamela Anderson, Kirstie in the same cast as those prior winners? That’s just bizarre. Kirstie did ok in what was a fairly mediocre season. But, she’s no dancer. I’m excited to see Melissa Rycroft in the cast. I hope she’s still in reasonable shape for dancing. Shawn Johnson was just a little kid when she danced with Mark. I’m curious to see how her dancing changes as a grownup. I thought Shawn was injured?? She just recently pulled out of the Olympics and retired last month. Can’t believe they aren’t letting Sabrina Bryan in the cast. She’s worked her ass off dancing and supporting dwts in Vegas this summer. Kelly Monaco?? Geez, it’s been what??? 5 or 6 years ago when she won? She’ll have to relearn all the dances from scratch. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/4 "2012-07-27T20:48:07Z")
No Louis Van Amstel or Lacey Schwimmer? I guess the show won’t ever let Louis come back. Who did he piss off? He needs to move on and forget dwts. Lacey Schwimmer has been headlining Vegas dwts all summer and is finally back in top dance shape. Why would they snub her this season? ---
**Author:** ![orderfire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orderfire/32/10908_2.png) [@orderfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orderfire)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/5 "2012-07-28T16:52:39Z")
I loved Carson but put my votes towards Sabrina. I’d like to see that girl get another chance. They should bring Carson on as a commentator, or maybe he can join Dance Center with Kenny Mayne. Louis does do choreography for the show, seems like he does a lot of the group numbers. Bristol Palin. Good grief. Let’s get her off the show FAST. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/6 "2012-08-13T14:57:43Z")
[Here’s a version with pix and commentary.](http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20356896_20620513,00.html#21198481) All are with their original partner, unless noted. Apolo & Karina [originally with Julianne] Bristol & Mark Drew & Anna [originally with Cheryl] Emmit & Cheryl Gilles & Peta [originally with Cheryl] Helio & Chelsie [originally with Julianne] Joey & Kym Kelly & Val [originally with Alec Maza] Kirstie & Max Melissa & Tony Pamela & Tristan [originally with Damian Whitewood] Shawn & Derek [originally with Mark; none of Derek’s exes are on this season] Poor Tristan, he’s screwed. I wonder if Cheryl got to pick which winning partner she wanted to dance with? ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/7 "2012-08-13T17:09:23Z")
Tristan and Pam is going to be an unexpected surprise. I think Pam is underrated and unfortunately she got a pro that was rather quiet and too small to properly frame her. So they probably won’t get to the end, but Im really interested in this pair. Cheryl has to be proud. Despite others who got former partners, she is the only one who had three of her partners actually coming back. I think it will be very interesting. in season three there was an emphasis on actual ballroom. Now people prefer the Hough style of pulling your partner through the routine without paying attention to proper dance style as long as its flashy. I think Cheryl will modify her choreography style to move away from the solid actual ballroom to showcase Emmitts Personality and strength, and they being the only pair to have won the first time, will be looking to defend the title. Emmit has specifically come out of retirement, after having said he wouldn’t come back, so they must be serious. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/8 "2012-08-13T18:38:59Z")
I feel sorry for Mark. Another season trying to get some kind of performance from Bristol. I never saw anyone with less emotion or energy performing. I wonder how Apollo and Karina will get along? iirc he’s a pretty cocky guy. Karina better not try bossing him around. Anna and Drew should be fun to watch. Still voting for Sabrina. I want to see her and Louis together. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/9 "2012-08-13T21:29:26Z")
it is pretty shocking that NONE of Derek’s former partners could clear their schedules to come back. you’ve got Cheryl with three, Mark with two and possibly three if Sabrina returns, Kym with Joey, Tony and Melissa and Maks with both Mel B and Kirstie fighting over him with Kirstie winning out. it just seems odd that the winningest pro has not a single winner with him. Anyway, I never thought Shawn was much of a performer. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/10 "2012-08-13T21:36:48Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > [Here’s a version with pix and commentary.](http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20356896_20620513,00.html#21198481) > > All are with their original partner, unless noted. > > Apolo & Karina [originally with Julianne] > Bristol & Mark > Drew & Anna [originally with Cheryl] > Emmit & Cheryl > Gilles & Peta [originally with Cheryl] > Helio & Chelsie [originally with Julianne] > Joey & Kym > Kelly & Val [originally with Alec Maza] > Kirstie & Max > Melissa & Tony > Pamela & Tristan [originally with Damian Whitewood] > Shawn & Derek [originally with Mark; none of Derek’s exes are on this season] > > Poor Tristan, he’s screwed. > > I wonder if Cheryl got to pick which winning partner she wanted to dance with? I think Cheryl did indeed pick Emmitt, she Always speaks highly of him and he has steadfastly supported her throughout the seasons. Gilles signed on late in the Game, and while they may have hoped for a season of finalists who didn’t win initially, when the season included past winners she obviously went with her favorite partner. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/11 "2012-08-13T21:47:57Z")
> [@Andiethewestie](#): > > it is pretty shocking that NONE of Derek’s former partners could clear their schedules to come back. Well, he won with Brooke, who’s now a host; Nicole Scherzinger, who just got fired from _X Factor_; and Jennifer Grey, who’s got serious medical issues with her neck/spine. Not too surprising none of them would come back. His next best finish was a third with Ricki Lake, who’s launching a talk show this fall. [Linkie](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Hough#Dancing_with_the_Stars). ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/12 "2012-08-13T23:36:35Z")
Eh, Brooke could have come back but she’s too afraid shed lose her job that she’s terrible at, Nicole’s singing career is in the toilet and could have come back to redeem herself after her disaster on the Us xfactor or what about the also rans Jennie Garth isn’t doing anything but divorcing her husband, And what about Lil Kym, both of whom placed higher than either Pam Anderson or Sabrina. no it smells like they didn’t want to have to come back to Derek. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/13 "2012-08-14T14:27:45Z")
Pre-Season VEGAS odds from Bodog Apolo Anton Ono 9/2 Helio Castroneves 5/1 Emmitt Smith 6/1 Shawn Johnson 6/1 Drew Lachey 15/2 Joey Fatone 15/2 Giles Marini 9/1 Kirstie Alley 14/1 Kelly Monaco 15/1 Melissa Rycroft 18/1 Kyle Massey/Sabrina Bryan/Carson Kressley 20/1 Bristol Palin 25/1 Pamela Anderson 40/1 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/14 "2012-08-15T08:28:44Z")
I wonder if having prior dwts experience matters? Do they really remember a tango or samba they learned in a week? Most of these celebs were on over two years ago. Emmitt and kelly Monaco four years ago. I’m hoping to see better dancing in All Stars. Hope I’m not disappointed. The ones that spent the summer doing the Vegas dwts show may have an advantage. I think Joey and Sabrina did nearly all the shows. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/15 "2012-08-16T20:01:58Z")
Kelly was 2005 and Emmitt 2006 so it has been quite awhile. The Vegas show peeps have the advantage, no question, so expect Joey to come out strong but only if he also worked on his rather clunky flat footedness. None of the celebs, unless they are dancers will have retained a lot, but a lot of sequences will come back with a few practices. This is show dancing, not ballroom dancing to do at a wedding, so it’s chunked out for expediency and flash, not for repetitive steps to re use socially. I think if any of them decided to take some lessons, it can help smooth out and polish the technique. It is like a ballet dancer at the barre, the more time you put into the basics, the more beautiful your line and technique. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/16 "2012-08-17T23:41:38Z")
Hope Solo’s new book claims Maks slapped her during a rehearsal. I recall footage of Maks grabbing Hope roughly during rehearsals. Jerking her into positions he wanted. At the time people brushed it off. She’s a tough soccer goalie. There was some kind of ugly incident during a team dance rehearsal that seemed to leave the other pros uncomfortable. They aired some of that footage but not the actual incident. dwts has been covering up for this jerk too long. This may be enough to finally get Maks a ticket off the show. He’s become too toxic. imho If they are smart they’ll replace him before all stars starts rehearsals. > [@](#): > > “He manhandled me in rehearsals from the start, pushing me, whacking my stomach, bending my arms roughly," Solo writes in "Solo: A Memoir of Hope, which was published just this week. "I thought that was just how it went – how dancers worked with each other. But it kept getting worse. One day, Maks was trying to put me in a certain position and hit my stomach so hard with his open palm that I had a red handprint there for the rest of the day.” > **[Hope Solo Claims 'DWTS' Partner Slapped Her](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hope-solo-maksim-chmerkovskiy-slapping-scandal-book_n_1797789)** > > Hope Solo Claims 'DWTS' Partner Slapped Her > [@](#): > > Speaking to ESPN’s “First Take” on Friday morning about her claims (she also alleged Maks “manhandled” her during rehearsals and berated her for being less than ladylike), > **[Access: Entertainment News, Celebrity, TV, Music & Movie Videos](https://www.accessonline.com)** > > Access delivers the best in entertainment and celebrity news with unparalleled video coverage of the hottest names in Hollywood, movies, TV, music and pop culture ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/17 "2012-08-18T00:03:31Z")
OTOH Maks seemed to have a cordial relationship with Kirstie Alley. He seemed like a different guy. Kirstie tweeted support for Maks yesterday. erin andrews and Hope seemed to have the most volatile partnerships with Maks. He wouldn’t have dared getting rough with Laila Ali. She would have busted his jaw. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/18 "2012-08-19T05:32:53Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Hope Solo’s new book claims Maks slapped her during a rehearsal. > > I recall footage of Maks grabbing Hope roughly during rehearsals. Jerking her into positions he wanted. At the time people brushed it off. She’s a tough soccer goalie. There was some kind of ugly incident during a team dance rehearsal that seemed to leave the other pros uncomfortable. They aired some of that footage but not the actual incident. dwts has been covering up for this jerk too long. > > This may be enough to finally get Maks a ticket off the show. He’s become too toxic. imho If they are smart they’ll replace him before all stars starts rehearsals. > [Hope Solo Claims 'DWTS' Partner Maksim Chmerkovskiy Slapped Her | HuffPost Entertainment](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/hope-solo-maksim-chmerkovskiy-slapping-scandal-book_n_1797789.html) > > [Access: Entertainment News, Celebrity, TV, Music & Movie Videos | Access](http://www.accesshollywood.com/hope-solo-standing-by-her-claims-against-dancings-maksim-chmerkovskiy_article_68653) I wanted him gone when the incident occurred on camera with Hope during season 13. He has a history of abuse, from Laila Ali hating him, she said she’d never do a show with him again, to Brandi getting slapped, to Debi Mazur getting yelled at totally in her face, and according to her much worse off camera, to Melissa Gibert getting treated like crap last season, I totally agree, he’s not what a dance teacher /coach should act like on a fluffy reality show. The producers are douche bags for keeping a guy like him on for ratings. They have created a toxic work place and would rather cover their asses with a waiver instead of doing the right thing. It doesn’t matter if Hope was a well liked contestant or not, the show put her in a horrible position, if she requested another pro to have stepped in it would be her fault Maks lost his job. The show basically passed the buck, instead of terminating Maks full stop. But of course this the network that puts douche bag women beaters on, like Chris Brown, so it’s not like they give a shit when it comes to violence against women. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/19 "2012-08-20T20:21:34Z")
Drew sounds like a classy guy. He’s taking time out to help kids before dwts rehearsals start. He makes a good point about getting a new partner. I’m looking forward to seeing what Anna can do with someone that has such strong dance & performance abilities. I think this may be a fun pair to watch this season. [![](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/50d185244dd7e0399121e4bb7cc092b2.jpg) ](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/50d185244dd7e0399121e4bb7cc092b2.jpg) > [@](#): > > Drew Lachey is not taking it easy before he reunites with boy band 98 Degrees and appears on “Dancing with the Stars.” > > He’s busy teaching at a Cincinnati-area performing arts day camp that he opened with his wife, Lea. > > “My wife and I were both so influenced by the arts growing up that we wanted to be able to pass on our knowledge and experience as professional performers to the next generation,” Lachey said in a recent interview. > [@](#): > > This time around Lachey will be paired with Ana Trebunskaya. His former partner Cheryl Burke will dance with Emmitt Smith. > > Lachey described not working with Burke as “bittersweet.” > > “There’s history there and we know how to work together and how to dance together but there’s also excitement to do something new. A new partner, a new dynamic, a new style, new choreography, new techniques,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591/20 "2012-08-25T20:31:04Z")
I wanted to see which seasons got represented. Seasons 6,7,9,13 and 14 were ignored for All Stars. All are with their original partner, unless noted. Kelly & Val [originally with Alec Maza] **Season 1 Summer 2005** Drew & Anna [originally with Cheryl] **Season 2, Winter 2006** Emmit & Cheryl **Season 3 Fall 2006** Apolo & Karina [originally with Julianne] **Season 4, Spring 2007** Joey & Kym **Season 4, Spring 2007** Helio & Chelsie [originally with Julianne] \*\*Season 5, Fall 2007 \*\* Gilles & Peta [originally with Cheryl] **Season 8, Spring 2009** Melissa & Tony **Season 8, Spring 2009** Shawn & Derek [originally with Mark] **Season 8, Spring 2009** Pamela & Tristan [originally with Damian Whitewood] **Season 10, Spring 2010** Bristol & Mark **Season 11,Fall 2010** Kirstie & Max **Season 12 Spring 2011** [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2012-all-stars/629591.md?page=2)