# Dancing with the Stars -- DWTS -- Fall 2014 (Season 19) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414 "2014-08-13T04:20:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FeAudrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7feea3/32.png) [@FeAudrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FeAudrey)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/21 "2014-09-10T19:19:18Z")
A visit to the Season 19 Wikipedia page: > **[Dancing with the Stars (American season 19)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_with_the_Stars_%28U.S._season_19%29)** > > Season nineteen of Dancing with the Stars premiered on September 15, 2014. > On November 25, actor Alfonso Ribeiro and Witney Carson were crowned the champions, while Duck Dynasty star Sadie Robertson and Mark Ballas finished in second place, and Pretty Little Liars actress Janel Parrish and Valentin Chmerkovskiy finished in third. > Cheryl Burke, who was featured on every season of the show except the first, decided to leave when her contract expired at the end of this season. She would later re... turned up the information that someone has proposed deleting _all the individual DWTS season entries_ from Wikipedia: > **[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 1)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dancing_with_the_Stars_%28U.S._season_1%29)** > > The result was keep. There is an overwhelming consensus to keep all. When I relisted last night, a quick glance showed several IP !votes along with what appeared to be a couple of SPA accounts. My apologies for the relist and a reminder that just because it's relisted it can be closed at any time. (non-admin closure) Dusti\*Let's talk!\* 12:03, 17 September 2014 (UTC)Reply\[reply\] > WP:LISTCRUFT/WP:FANCRUFT/WP:IINFO article showing by-episode team scores, dance results and notes about contestants... I’d have posted a “Keep” entry myself, except that I can’t figure out how to do it. The “edit” tab took me on a path I feel ill-equipped to navigate. Any skilled Wikipedians care to take up the challenge? ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/22 "2014-09-14T23:47:08Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > The thing with ‘YouTube sensation’ is that they are as much a star as any other media star in today’s world. To us old farts (and I’m not old…mid 30s, but compared to the target demo, I’m old), YouTube is a place where we go occasionally to find specific videos or types of videos, or to watch things that friends link to from time to time. > > To a lot of younger people, though, they practically live on YouTube…it probably gets more interaction for a lot of teenagers and early 20somethings than TV or movies. So the ‘stars’ of YouTube, while home grown and not pinging the radar most over 30, are still genuine stars for a lot of people. How many of these young people who watch youtube or the disney channel are watching dwts? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/23 "2014-09-15T01:57:44Z")
First rehearsal videos released. [Janel and Val](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gti_q9cTNdY) [Lea and Artem](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFh10KH8XQM) [Tavis and Sharna](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uwb1cgx4HU) [Randy and Karina](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJLURTQ029k) [Sadie and Mark](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EjawlVSao) [Michael and Emma](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb7IrLsgTAo) [Jonathan & Allison](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NIo8rQfZAw) [Lolo and Keo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGWCHEASIYI) [Antonio and Cheryl](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNqd1f2gDnM) [Tommy and Peta](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtSd8ApC94s) [Alfonso and Witney](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XUH1lCfog) [Betsey and Tony](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG0rirdXGA4) [Bethany and Derek](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-dHXsCyO-4) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/24 "2014-09-16T04:58:38Z")
Not a bad season opener. Julianne’s dress may have been lower cut than the dancers’. Betsey Johnson got robbed. Yes, she got into a fight with a coat rack mid-performance, but up until that point, her cha-cha was way, way better than whatever Lolo Jones did. No way did she deserve a lower score. Voted for Lea, Tommy (who was surprisingly good), Randy, & Alfonso. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/25 "2014-09-16T05:17:45Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Betsey Johnson got robbed. Yes, she got into a fight with a coat rack mid-performance, but up until that point, her cha-cha was way, way better than whatever Lolo Jones did. No way did she deserve a lower score. I totally agree. I thought that Lea & Artem and Alfanso & Whitney were the best performers. I thought that Lolo & Keo and Michael & Ema were the worse. Betsy was the most limber 70 something they’ve ever had on the show. Tommy moved really well too. Usually in past seasons people 50 and over are pretty stiff, but that seems to have changed this season. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/26 "2014-09-16T12:53:43Z")
Quite a bit of talent this season. Alfanso & Whitney surprised me. I didn’t realize he was that good. Tommy Chong had a good first week. I hope he’s back next week. Lolo & Keo are my pick to go home. I thought Keo let her down with the choreography. He’s a champion dancer but seemed a bit lost working with a complete novice. I’m curious to see what Tony and Betsy do if they return next week. I hope she can come back with a strong dance. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/27 "2014-09-16T14:07:54Z")
Tommy was smooth, and Randy was a surprise, that’s for sure. I don’t know if Michael was the worst, but I do think he has pretty much hit the limit of his potential. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/28 "2014-09-16T17:38:45Z")
I usually don’t like when they send one person home after only one dance (I guess they do that in the fall, and in the spring they give them two dances before someone goes). But in this case I’m okay with it as long as the person who goes home is LoLo. I also thought Betsey was robbed. Not that she deserved a higher score than she got but she definitely deserved a higher score than LoLo because at least she did half a dance. ---
**Author:** ![AllShookDown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@AllShookDown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllShookDown)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/29 "2014-09-16T18:58:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Quite a bit of talent this season. Alfanso & Whitney surprised me. I didn’t realize he was that good. I’m surprised he surprised you. Remember this? (after 10 second ad) [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2Md5lPyuvsk/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGGUgTShIMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBJ88Qp8i-2aZYty_39JH7SwloAng "Classic Michael Jackson Pepsi Commercial (1984) (High Quality)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Md5lPyuvsk) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/30 "2014-09-16T19:35:06Z")
I do remember that, and never realized it was Carlton! Great to see it again. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/31 "2014-09-16T20:42:05Z")
Yeah, he’s a ringer. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/32 "2014-09-16T20:45:57Z")
He’s lost a lot of weight. I recall he got really heavy a few years ago. He could have played Uncle Phil pretty soon. 😉 Glad he’s taking better care of himself. [![](https://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/joey%20fatone%20120507/fatone_17_wenn1304392.jpg) ](https://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/joey%20fatone%20120507/fatone_17_wenn1304392.jpg) [http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alfonso+Ribeiro+8yH1nb3Al69m.jpg](http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alfonso+Ribeiro+8yH1nb3Al69m.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/33 "2014-09-16T22:20:52Z")
What do you guys think about Sadie & Mark’s dance? The judges gave it the second highest score, but it didn’t do much for me. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/34 "2014-09-16T22:47:57Z")
I liked Sadie’s dance. A bit reserved because she’s 17 and I noticed Mark kept a full foot away during the dance. He did the same thing when he was paired with Shawn Johnson. Sadie mentioned her school didn’t allow dancing. She’s really, really starting as a beginner. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/35 "2014-09-16T23:34:29Z")
For Alfonso fans, here’s a great “Fresh Prince” reunion on The Graham Norton Show. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZwS14TiO7Pk/maxresdefault.jpg "Will & Jaden Smith, DJ Jazzy Jeff and Alfonso Ribeiro Rap! - The Graham Norton Show - BBC One") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwS14TiO7Pk) ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/36 "2014-09-17T02:41:37Z")
_ **Results show spoiler** _ Well, thank god for that. I’m not familiar with Lolo, but she did not come across very well at all personality-wise on the show. Kind of a Debbie Downer. I think Tony was really, really hoping he and Betsey would get the boot tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/37 "2014-09-17T03:34:47Z")
It isn’t fair to have Alfonso Ribeiro in this, he’s a professional dancer. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/38 "2014-09-17T04:06:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > It isn’t fair to have Alfonso Ribeiro in this, he’s a professional dancer. I thought he said that he hasn’t danced in 20 or 30 years though. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/39 "2014-09-20T17:22:59Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > What do you guys think about Sadie & Mark’s dance? The judges gave it the second highest score, but it didn’t do much for me. Terrible. Hyper-extended legs and odd arms and hip action. Way over scored. And she did have dance lessons out side of school, She said on a blog that her dance teacher taught her to be double jointed. Her words, not mine ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/40 "2014-09-20T17:27:31Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > I thought he said that he hasn’t danced in 20 or 30 years though. Hmm… he took lessons from Kym Johnson in 2007 when he went with Lance Bass to watch Joey Fatone take Rumba steps. So that 20 years is a bit of an exaggeration. Any chance to dance here and there would still keep his muscle memory pretty strong. He has a really long history of dance, he danced better than his partner Monday night. Is that fair? I don’t know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414.md?page=3)