# Dancing with the Stars -- DWTS -- Fall 2014 (Season 19) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414 "2014-08-13T04:20:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/41 "2014-09-20T20:01:25Z")
> [@Andiethewestie](#): > > Terrible. Hyper-extended legs and odd arms and hip action. Way over scored. And she did have dance lessons out side of school, She said on a blog that her dance teacher taught her to be double jointed. Her words, not mine If she does have experience, then not mentioning it is pretty disingenuous, and she also should have done better. I agree that it was over scored. > [@Andiethewestie](#): > > Hmm… he took lessons from Kym Johnson in 2007 when he went with Lance Bass to watch Joey Fatone take Rumba steps. So that 20 years is a bit of an exaggeration. Any chance to dance here and there would still keep his muscle memory pretty strong. He has a really long history of dance, he danced better than his partner Monday night. Is that fair? I don’t know. They’ve had professional dancers on before. Personally if I ran the show I would only accept amateurs, but then maybe it would cause lower ratings. I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![M.Waltrip\_Racing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@M.Waltrip\_Racing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/M.Waltrip_Racing)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/42 "2014-09-22T20:07:43Z")
Michael has been traveling back and forth from the race track to LA. We followed him on Friday at the track and filmed a lot of great content. Find out what his co-workers think and his goals for the season.[http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q\_JvW5Zo63M&feature=youtu.be](http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_JvW5Zo63M&feature=youtu.be) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/43 "2014-09-23T01:12:21Z")
So far it’s been a typical week 2 slump. The dances just aren’t nearly as good as week 1. Lea and Artem’s jive has been the week 2 highlight so far. Betsy and Tony did really good compared to their week 1 dance. There’s still a few more dances to go. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/44 "2014-09-23T07:06:17Z")
I thought Betsy and Tony did better than the 28 score they received. 32 would have been more like it. And I really enjoyed Tommy and Peta. Like the judges said, it was really fun. I still think Michael should go home. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/45 "2014-09-23T18:03:03Z")
I"d guess Betsy Johnson goes because she had no obvious fan base and, as much as she improved from week 1, still wasn’t all that good. The fourth judge doesn’t add much, and I’d rather they just tell Bruno to tone it down a bit. Like the return of the sky box. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/46 "2014-09-24T06:08:02Z")
Well, goodbye to Travis. I think he was a good choice to go home, although I think Michael was a better choice. Maybe next week. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/47 "2014-09-24T17:35:50Z")
Agree that he was a good choice to go. He didn’t appear to be enjoying himself on Monday, which is a cardinal sin. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/48 "2014-09-24T17:41:45Z")
Yeah, he was the right one to go, but Sharna is my favorite pro so I’m disappointed to see her out so early. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/49 "2014-09-30T03:10:48Z")
I Always love Movie night on dwts. There were so many great dances tonight. Tommy Chong and Betsey Johnson continue to amaze me with their energy and charm. Age really is just a number for those two. Same thing with Lea Thompson who dances like she’s 30. There wasn’t a bad dance tonight at all. Sure, some were better than others, but there were no stinkers tonight. Val deserves so much credit for reinventing new choreography for that famous West Side Story dance. That was one heck of a challenge. Derek was fortunate that he was allowed to recreate the famous Singing in the Rain dance. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/50 "2014-09-30T04:00:51Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Same thing with Lea Thompson who dances like she’s 30. Even in the _good_ future she’s not supposed to look that great at this age! ---
**Author:** ![Wisp00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@Wisp00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisp00)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/51 "2014-09-30T06:33:50Z")
Anyone know what was up with the booing when the band was introduced? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/52 "2014-09-30T07:07:38Z")
Wow, week 3 and two perfect scores. I did think that Randy deserved to go home. And I was amazed by Michael’s improvement. Finally, Kevin was OK, except for yelling all his scores and being a tad too generous a couple of times. > [@Wisp00](#): > > Anyone know what was up with the booing when the band was introduced? I missed that. Now I’m curious too. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/53 "2014-09-30T17:36:21Z")
I assumed it was because the orchestra that played for 16 seasons got canned. This smaller and cheaper band took their place. ABC’s idea of saving a few bucks was to fire music director, Harold Wheeler. It’s not the band’s fault. They are just doing what they were hired to do. ---
**Author:** ![Wisp00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@Wisp00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisp00)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/54 "2014-09-30T19:14:28Z")
aceplace57: I kinda thought that at first, too, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense. The new orchestra has been playing for more than a season, and all of a sudden everyone in the audience decides to show their displeasure _now_? I guess it’s possible, but kind of strange. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/55 "2014-10-01T02:35:08Z")
I thought Val was amazing in re-creating WSS and making me want to go to HIS version of the show on Broadway. Janel was great and well deserved score. George Chakiris, the ORIGINAL Oscar winning Bernardo was in the audience! I was saddened nobody asked him what he thought of the routine! 80 years old, the guy looks great! It was confusing, until the widow of Gene Kelly showed up in Derek and personality deprived Bethany’s practice. So of course Derek would get his 10’s why was Bethany even there? It kinda pissed me off that Gene Kelly’s widow looked so young, well she is, relatively speaking. She married him when she was 26 and he was 72. They were only married for 6 years before he died. Gene would have been 102 this year. Mrs. Kelly is 56. I guess my point is Mrs. Kelly wasn’t even born when Singing in the Rain was first released, and yet we had the Oscar winning actor from West Side Story in the audience. I don’t think the favoritism towards Derek was ever so blatant. I used to vote for him, I just can’t anymore. There are too many good dancers on the show for the producers to constantly lick this guy’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/56 "2014-10-01T17:32:19Z")
It seemed to occur at about the same time they didn’t let Bruno give his thoughts about a dance, although it’s hard to imagine anyone boo-ing that. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/57 "2014-10-01T17:37:54Z")
Oh, yeah, that. I thought it was about Bruno not getting his say. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/58 "2014-10-01T18:33:12Z")
If they don’t have time for all 4 judges to weigh in then maybe they should go back to just 3 judges… I didn’t think Derek recreated “Singin’ in the Rain” so much as did homage to it. A couple of moments, the umbrella flip. But it was a nice dance and they did it really well. Loved Val’s WSS dance as well. I did not think Betsey deserved a 6. But on the other hand, I didn’t think she deserved a 9. This balances out to 7.5 which seems about right. I would really like to know what she does to stay so flexible. She does have a nice line, but she doesn’t have the musicality she needs to get to the finals IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Wisp00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/977dab/32.png) [@Wisp00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wisp00)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/59 "2014-10-01T21:01:32Z")
> [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](#): > > It seemed to occur at about the same time they didn’t let Bruno give his thoughts about a dance, although it’s hard to imagine anyone boo-ing that. Ah, thanks. That makes sense. He was probably hamming it up off camera to get the audience going. Plus, Tom’s comment, “oooh, it’s getting ugly in here” was far too flippant for them to be booing the band. I agree with Hilarity N. Suze: They’ve cut off the last judge quite a few times already this season. I don’t remember that happening much when they only had three judges. I figured the whole point of bringing on Julianne as a fourth judge was because Len was going to be missing a lot of shows like last year. But nope, they’re still doing the guest judge thing. My new guess is she’s being eased in as Len’s replacement and this will probably be his last season ☹ My feelings toward Derek have come full circle. In the beginning, he was my favorite. Then it seemed like he was getting a little too lucky with the partners, and the whole “Derek is nice guy, Maks is the bad guy” thing seemed a little too staged. I began to think he wasn’t as great as I first thought. But now, with all the Derek hate pilling up on him, I feel he’s really being treated unfairly by the fans. He really is amazingly talented, and comes up with things that no one else does. Recently, I’ve realized it’s not all lucky partners, it’s his fabulous choreography that gets the scores. And I don’t think that’s unfair at all. So I vote for the couple that entertains me most. Sometimes that’s the celebrity, sometimes the pro, and sometimes the amazing dance itself. In my opinion, Val can also be pretty creative with the choreography. He comes up with twists to make a dance entertaining without breaking the rules of the dance. Mark tries to be creative and considers himself to be a rebel, but he seems to fail as often as he succeeds. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414/60 "2014-10-01T21:17:07Z")
Any idea what the legal problem was with West Side Story? My guess is that they didn’t want to rip off the Jerome Robbins choreography…is choreography copyrighted? (And if so, why not just pay for the rights?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-fall-2014-season-19/695414.md?page=4)