# Dancing with the Stars -- DWTS -- Spring 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 20, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025 "2011-02-20T17:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/61 "2011-04-06T20:33:04Z")
ROFLMAO after seeing this Karate Kid parody with William Zabka and Ralph. This video is a must see. Great stuff. šŸ˜ƒ > **[Seriously? OMG! WTF? Ā» William Zabka still holds a grudge against The Karate...](https://seriouslyomg.com/william-zabka-still-holds-a-grudge-against-the-karate-kid-aka-ralph-macchio/)** > > Seriously? OMG! WTF? - They should have included Zabka in this seasons dwts. The dance off between those two actors would have been fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/62 "2011-04-11T18:15:34Z")
Karina Smirnoff is in the new Playboy. DWTS has featured quite a few people from the magazine. Brooke posed a few years ago, Kendra, Holly Madison, Denise Richards thereā€™s quite a list. Karinaā€™s bosses knew about it ahead of time. [http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20480781,00.html](http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20480781,00.html) If youā€™re curious, dwtsgossip on twitter has a link to the pics. Karina is quite lovely and very muscular & fit. I thought they were tastefully done. I hope thereā€™s no backlash from the public. Her dances costumes cover very little anyway. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/63 "2011-04-11T19:05:36Z")
Louis just tweeted they got Katherine Jenkins on tonight! She was on the Doctor Who Christmas special a few months ago. A crossover opera/pop mezzo-soprano with a fantastic voice. We are in for one heck of a treat tonight. Iā€™m playing her music right now. Tonight may be the best dwts this season. Iā€™m looking forward to classical night. > [@](#): > > LouisVanAmstel Louis Van Amstel > Oh good, Iā€™m glad u guys love Kathrine Jenkins. Sheā€™ll be singing our song tonight LIVE!!! A beautiful song from Andrea Bocelli ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/64 "2011-04-11T19:08:15Z")
Tom Bergeronā€™s tweet about tonight: > [@](#): > > DWTS Classical Night tonight. Bach to the Future. Results Show tomorrow. Throw the Brahms out. No Haydn from THAT!! There. Out of my system. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/65 "2011-04-12T03:44:03Z")
I loved the classical music. I liked several of the dances. Sugar Ray, Hines, Ralph were really good. Petra was ok. Iā€™m not a big fan of the Paso and there were quite a few of them tonight. I didnā€™t see any dances that totally sucked. I guess Kendra and Kirstie were my least favorite. Donā€™t have a clue whoā€™s going home. The scores were all bunched up together. Anyone could get sent home and thatā€™s what makes this season so interesting. Katherine Jenkins was really good. I prefer her crossover songs, but the opera numbers she did tonight sounded great. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/66 "2011-04-12T04:39:45Z")
Almost forgotā€¦ This was the second time Kym Johnson danced to Bondā€™s hit Explosive. Here she is on the Australian version dancing the Paso with a Pro a few years ago. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRXdzFWCts) Tonight she danced the Paso with Hines to the same song. Iā€™m curious how much of the choreography she reused. After itā€™s posted to youtube itā€™ll be interesting to compare the two dances. I wouldnā€™t fault her for reusing some of the earlier steps. That earlier dance was really good. I enjoy the Paso when itā€™s done professionally. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/67 "2011-04-12T04:56:32Z")
Pretty broad definition of ā€œclassicalā€, but what the heck. Kendra has some self-esteem issues, methinks. Every week she uses the word ā€œladyā€ ā€“ I need to be a lady, Iā€™m not a lady, I should be lady-like, I canā€™t be lady-likeā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/68 "2011-04-12T13:42:29Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Pretty broad definition of ā€œclassicalā€, but what the heck. > > Kendra has some self-esteem issues, methinks. Every week she uses the word ā€œladyā€ ā€“ I need to be a lady, Iā€™m not a lady, I should be lady-like, I canā€™t be lady-likeā€¦ I canā€™t decide whether sheā€™s a bimbo, or just believes sheā€™s a bimbo. Certainly she sounds like sheā€™s Eliza Doolittle resisting becoming My Fair Lady to hear her talk. And once again, Louis is over-choreographing her. That was ā€œclassicalā€ for some very large values of classical. Contemporary movie music is not classical music even when itā€™s by John Williams, who was director of the Boston _Pops_ for a reason. I am sick of their putting Pasos to inappropriate music, regardless of how much I like that music. Even _March of the Toreadors_, although the title sounds like it would be perfect for a paso, is totally rhythmically off, and too cheerful in its sound. I enjoyed the Grieg (In the _Hall of the Mountain King_), but it was too quick for a paso. Romeo was pretty good, but I found his ripping his jacket off at the end egregious. Anna did a lovely job of dancing like crazy around Sugar Ray. Iā€™m betting that girl grew up taking ballet and always secretly wanted to be a prima donna. Petra was OK, but she just doesnā€™t do anything for me. She seems like a lovely person and I certainly wish her well, but I have no interest in seeing her dance. And I keep searching for why she was a super model, and not seeing it. I thought Ralphā€™s waltz was a bit clumsy, but I like him a lot. Hines and Kym are just plain good. Kym knows how to teach and choreograph for this setting very well. Mark, Derekā€™s gimmicks were admired not least because they only showed up when asked for. Cut it out! That said, his choreography was very clever, and did a wonderful job of storytelling. Just not quite enough waltz. Still, I think Chelseaā€™s the best dancer of the season, although only by a nose. Chris certainly continues to improve, and you can never afford to count Cheryl out; sheā€™s too good at this. Kirstie continues with the bad luck. But I canā€™t get over how much Maks has changed this season. Heā€™s actually likable for the first time that Iā€™ve ever seen. Maybe it took a contestant who outweighed him. Anyway, I liked her dance a lot; I thought she was graceful, technically proficient, and had a strong sense of musicality in a piece that, while very beautiful, did not have a strongly delineated beat, unlike most waltzes. Iā€™m not at all sure whoā€™ll go down tonight, but Iā€™m not shedding any tears if itā€™s Kendra. If sheā€™s so reluctant to become a ā€œlady,ā€ perhaps sheā€™ll be happy to have the burden lifted. I wish theyā€™d stop with the gimmick nights. Theyā€™re what, the second biggest show on TV wrt ratings? Why do they constantly find this need to tinker with it? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/69 "2011-04-12T13:52:11Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > Romeo was pretty good, but I found his ripping his jacket off at the end egregious. Ugh. Seriously. I will admit that heā€™s a good dancer, although I find him annoying in the extreme. He can go to the finals if he develops a personality, and finds some way of connecting with the audienceā€¦and strutting around with your shirt off is not ā€œconnectingā€. I :rolleyes: at all the pros warning their stars that classical music is difficult, because it ā€œhas no beatā€. Cā€™mon, March of the Toreadors is a _march_, for crissake. Hup two three four. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/70 "2011-04-12T14:49:19Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I :rolleyes: at all the pros warning their stars that classical music is difficult, because it ā€œhas no beatā€. Cā€™mon, March of the Toreadors is a _march_, for crissake. Hup two three four. Not to mention that they did [_A Fifth of Beethoven_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Fifth_of_Beethoven), rather than Beethovenā€™s Fifth! It was a disco hit, for peteā€™s sake. You donā€™t get much stronger beat than that. (Then had their poor pros choreographing a paso to it. Oh, the humanity!) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/71 "2011-04-12T17:31:41Z")
I am sick of Mark. Not that I wasnā€™t before, but every week heā€™s worse. Why is he choreographing himself? And making sure the spotlight on is on him all the time. I would not have minded the worm so much if both of them had been doing it together or if the focus was on Chelsea wriggling around the floor - but I am of his ā€œlook at me!!!ā€ crap and the judges should have seriously graded them down for it. I want them to go. Iā€™m sorry for Chelsea who deserves a better partner than that. Other than that, I liked Hines, Jericho, and Ralph (even though I found their dance kind of creepy - was Karina supposed to be the ā€œcorpseā€? That was weird. Pretty, but weird). ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/72 "2011-04-12T18:56:39Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > (even though I found their dance kind of creepy - was Karina supposed to be the ā€œcorpseā€? That was weird. Pretty, but weird). I did the same thing! As the dance started, I said out loud to an empty room, ā€œOh my god, heā€™s dancing with a corpse!ā€ But I had sort of gotten over the creepiness of that 30 seconds in. It was a lovely dance. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/73 "2011-04-12T19:12:28Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I am sick of Mark. Not that I wasnā€™t before, but every week heā€™s worse. Why is he choreographing himself? And making sure the spotlight on is on him all the time. Preach it, sister. I wish Derek would have a little talk with him. I wish Derek were around to have a little talk with him. ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/74 "2011-04-13T02:43:22Z")
After winning all those titles, how could Sugar Rayā€™s fans let him down? Thereā€™s no loyalty in this world at all. Worst of all, weā€™re stuck with Kendra for another week. Sheā€™s mainly known for sharing a bed with an 80 year old dude. Sugar Ray won boxing titles in five different weight divisions, and an Olympic Gold Medal. fickle fansā€¦ \ ---
**Author:** ![jacquilynne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jacquilynne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacquilynne)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/75 "2011-04-13T03:21:32Z")
What does any of that have to do with whether they should continue on DwtS? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/76 "2011-04-13T04:15:29Z")
dwts is primarily a popularity contest. Unless someone really sucks at dancing, the people with the bigger fan base last the longest. Usually as you get close to the final then dance ability begins to matter more. But, right now weā€™re in the early stages and thereā€™s still several people that are barely average dancers. I shouldnā€™t take it personal. Tonight was tougher than usual because Iā€™ve followed that celebrityā€™s career and cheered him for over 25 years. Won a few nice bets too. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/77 "2011-04-13T04:33:06Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > dwts is primarily a popularity contest. Unless someone really sucks at dancing, the people with the bigger fan base last the longest. Usually as you get close to the final then dance ability begins to matter more. But, right now weā€™re in the early stages and thereā€™s still several people that are barely average dancers. > > I shouldnā€™t take it personal. Tonight was tougher than usual because Iā€™ve followed that celebrityā€™s career and cheered him for over 25 years. Won a few nice bets too. šŸ˜‰ The core audience is middle-aged housewives. How many of them have even heard of Leonard? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/78 "2011-04-13T05:29:13Z")
OK, the show has played on the west coast, so I think itā€™s safe to talk about the result. I would much rather have seen Kendra go. But Sugar Ray was also doomed to go very soon, and he did go out on a high note this way. I thought his remarks at the end were very gracious. I figured that Kendra would not go home when they showed Louis telling her how disappointed he was in what she said to the judges. It would really have been kicking her when she was down to show that right before sending her off, and the show is not usually cruel. But I sincerely hope that she will be gone before four weeks are up and we are in danger of being treated to this kind of behavior again. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/79 "2011-04-13T05:35:23Z")
I hope Kendra sucks it up and gets motivated again. Her comments about ballroom dances and gagging gesture towards the music made it clear sheā€™s growing tired of the show. Perfectionists are often like that. If they give a 100% and still donā€™t conquer something they quickly lose interest. Kendra probably will do a lot better with latin dances then traditional ballroom. Yes, Iā€™m speaking from experience. Perfectionism has often been a liability for me. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025/80 "2011-04-13T08:14:28Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > I am sick of their putting Pasos to inappropriate music, regardless of how much I like that music. Even _March of the Toreadors_, although the title sounds like it would be perfect for a paso, is totally rhythmically off, and too cheerful in its sound. I enjoyed the Grieg (In the _Hall of the Mountain King_), but it was too quick for a paso. The music choices are getting increasingly bad. I donā€™t know if the producers choose the music or if Harold Wheeler chooses the music or if the pro dancers have input but they need some help, stat. > [@](#): > > Romeo was pretty good, but I found his ripping his jacket off at the end egregious. Someone said, in the course of the show, sometimes in Paso the female partner is the bull, sometimes sheā€™s the cape. Since Chelsie was definitely the bull, the jacket served as the cape. I prefer it when the jacket is the cape to when they actually have a physical cape like most of Cherylā€™s partners have had (and Iā€™m thankful Jericho didnā€™t). It wouldā€™ve been nice though, if they were going that way, if heā€™d have had a shirt on. > [@](#): > > Anna did a lovely job of dancing like crazy around Sugar Ray. Iā€™m betting that girl grew up taking ballet and always secretly wanted to be a prima donna. Absolutely correct. Sheā€™s talked about that, somewhere, but I canā€™t recall if it was on the show or in an interview. > [@](#): > > Mark, Derekā€™s gimmicks were admired not least because they only showed up when asked for. Cut it out! That said, his choreography was very clever, and did a wonderful job of storytelling. Just not quite enough waltz. Still, I think Chelseaā€™s the best dancer of the season, although only by a nose. Mark very clearly doesnā€™t want to be there. His album came out today and heā€™s performing live as often as possible, but not as often as before. The season he was voted off early with Shannon Doherty he was performing live every Monday night at an L.A. nightclub that ended up being the unofficial afterparty for the rest of the competitors on the show. So heā€™s got this album dropping, heā€™s not performing live music, his brother and sister are gone (donā€™t hold your breath for either Hough to ever return to that dance floor) and heā€™s recently broken up with his girlfriend. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if this is his last season. > [@](#): > > But I canā€™t get over how much Maks has changed this season. Heā€™s actually likable for the first time that Iā€™ve ever seen. Maybe it took a contestant who outweighed him. Nope, Iā€™d put it down to seven little words: Karina Smirnoff is engaged to someone else. The tension between them last season was powerful. Karina was always going out to the afterparties so Maks wasnā€™t, so he wasnā€™t socializing and seemed pretty alienated from the show. Balance has been restored there. I pay way too much attention to DWTS gossip (and the pro dancers Twitters), quite clearly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-dwts-spring-2011/572025.md?page=5)