# Dancing with the Stars Fall 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101 "2011-08-25T23:37:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/361 "2011-11-16T15:22:00Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> I watched Rob and Cheryl do their encore last night, and damned if I didn’t have a big grin on my face as I watched it. He knew his dance, he wasn’t worried about being scored, so he just had a real blast, which is what samba is all about. Well done, Rob!

Yeah, definitely. I’m so happy for him – glad he made it to the finals. Yanno who he is? He’s the Kelly Osborne of this season – on the show because a minor member of a wacky reality TV family, but totally into the experience and winning us over because of his/her enthusiasm; deserves to make it to the finals because of that enthusiasm, but will probably place third behind two much better dancers.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/362 "2011-11-16T15:31:36Z")

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I love his “I _love_ to dance!” at the end of Monday’s (I think) program. You’re right, **twicky** , he’s like Kelly Osborne. Total transformation from his early stomping around the dance floor like a juvenile T-Rex.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/363 "2011-11-16T16:21:05Z")

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I just read on the Us app that Hope burst into tears after her elimination backstage and only gave one interview, refusing all others. So I suppose her reign of terror both ends and continues.

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**Author:** ![Feyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Feyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feyrat)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/364 "2011-11-16T20:13:16Z")

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Woot! I predicted these three in the finale back on like, page 2 or something.

And I won’t mind if any of the three of them win, though of course I’m gonna vote my fingers off for JR.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/365 "2011-11-18T20:48:17Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> I thought the DaD Paso was ok, but not as good as the Tango Derek did with the unfamiliar woman a couple, three weeks ago. Anna is a very good dancer, but I like her better in ballroom than Latin.

I agree, about Anna…not my favorite Latin dancer. The “unfamiliar” woman in the Tango is Allison Holker from So you think you can dance…now THAT was spectacular combining traditional ballroom and contemporary elements without compromising the integrity of either genre.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/cMNR7VodEbk?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/366 "2011-11-18T21:05:06Z")

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Thanks, **Andie**!

Damn, Derek is just incredible. That kid is scary good. Why is he still on DwtS? Are really fine male dancers/choreographers so common?

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/367 "2011-11-19T11:40:06Z")

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I agree. It’s hard to even watch Ricki, because I just can’t take my eyes off of Derek.

When he does those slides, I just want to swoon.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/368 "2011-11-19T22:56:45Z")

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> [@Oy](#):
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> Thanks, **Andie**!
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> Damn, Derek is just incredible. That kid is scary good. Why is he still on DwtS? Are really fine male dancers/choreographers so common?

No they aren’t so common, that is why I am grateful to this show, because we got to see Derek spotlighted with Allison (love it, Has Emmy written all over it) and also with his sister and the design a dance. But up to the finals the most memorable dance I think this season has got to be the psycho Tango, which also deserves an Emmy nod.

I really think this guy is maturing into a great artist, and you know, he will be considered as one of the greats in terms of tv choreography, and his work will be copied and admired like Bob Fosse, for example…Derek is doing ballroom contemporary fusion and he’s young and gorgeous so he can do his own work, so in 30 years we can look back and say I remember when Derek Hough was on DWTS

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/369 "2011-11-19T23:06:21Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> I agree. It’s hard to even watch Ricki, because I just can’t take my eyes off of Derek.
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> When he does those slides, I just want to swoon.

on some dances I agree, but my favorite Ricki dances this season were the ones that not only showed good technique, the quality of her acting really got me to believe her. The Psycho Tango was really well performed, it could of went camp, but instead it had me in terms of the murderer and the victim..I also especially liked her Broadway Quickstep, I was watching her the whole way, she was spot on, it was an excellent dance, as well as that gorgeous Rumba Derek choreographed. To me she looked beautiful and sexy, and unlike some of the partners Derek has had who were timid of the intimacy, Ricki dove right in and showed a sweetness and vulnerability.. And in the end that Rumba wasn’t about the tricks but what a woman does to a man, and I thought it was finally how a rumba should be danced.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/370 "2011-11-19T23:55:41Z")

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> [@Feyrat](#):
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> Woot! I predicted these three in the finale back on like, page 2 or something.
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> And I won’t mind if any of the three of them win, though of course I’m gonna vote my fingers off for JR.

I was originally in Jr’s camp but I found myself disappointed with his dancing of late, and not just the injury. I think I was expecting a better quality of Waltz, his footwork was sloppy, and his dance position hasn’t been ggod since the ghostbusters Tango, and for me, I just preferred the Newsies Jive to the Insta jive. I am probably in the minority, but I felt the improvement in Ricki more, and originally I didn’t want to root for another Derek win, I had been rooting for David Arquette.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/371 "2011-11-20T00:17:08Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> I just read on the Us app that Hope burst into tears after her elimination backstage and only gave one interview, refusing all others. So I suppose her reign of terror both ends and continues.

Apparently the show pulled the plug. Monday night Maks said F Carrie Ann and his publicist pulled him off more interviews, and Tuesday they were both told no ABC publicity, meaning no Kimmel, no GMA, no Regis and Kelly, no The View. Can’t blame ABC for doing the prudent thing…she was talking a vast conspiracy to get her off since day one and his volatility just fed into it. A couple of loose canons wanting to give the show a black eye because the public voted for Rob over her? Seriously, they were in a tie for points, but he was on an upward swing, and rose to the challenge, she didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/372 "2011-11-20T00:26:44Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Yeah, definitely. I’m so happy for him – glad he made it to the finals. Yanno who he is? He’s the Kelly Osborne of this season – on the show because a minor member of a wacky reality TV family, but totally into the experience and winning us over because of his/her enthusiasm; deserves to make it to the finals because of that enthusiasm, but will probably place third behind two much better dancers.

I am really glad he made the finals over Hope. Neither are great dancers, but the guy has the right attitude, his challenge is with himself, and having fun not this Us against Them competitive drive that just gets ugly. Let the fans fight over who is the best, afterall it’s just for entertainment. I think I like Ricki, but JR could have a great night and if he does it’s his to lose. I’d be happy for any of them to win.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/373 "2011-11-20T00:34:47Z")

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I’m curious to see if Hope even shows up for the Final show. No word at all about any rehearsals. I think she’s back with her team this weekend.

Heck even Metta World Peace and Peta rehearsed this weekend. I like to call them P & P. 😃  
Elisabetta Canalis tweeted that she’s rehearsing with Val this weekend.

All the stars are supposed to be back for Tuesdays show.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/374 "2011-11-20T00:44:52Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m curious to see if Hope even shows up for the Final show. No word at all about any rehearsals. I think she’s back with her team this weekend.
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> Heck even Metta World Peace and Peta rehearsed this weekend. I like to call them P & P. 😃  
> Elisabetta Canalis tweeted that she’s rehearsing with Val this weekend.
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> All the stars are supposed to be back for Tuesdays show.

That will be interesting, Maks blogged he didn’t know, but apparently Hope publicist confirmed they will be back. well if they are they will be underrehearsed…but that is nothing new:)

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/375 "2011-11-21T15:43:10Z")

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Any of y’all in Philly? I can get reviewer tickets to Champions of the Dance, a ballroom extravaganza starring Jonathan Roberts and Anna Trebunskaya and others.

Dates:

Thursday, December 15 at 7:30 PM; Friday, December 16 at 8 PM; Saturday, December 17 at 2 PM & 8 PM and Sunday, December 18 at 2 PM & 7 PM.

I’m thinking of going myself, but could get a second ticket if someone is around and would like to go. This will be at the Annenenberg out at Penn (37th and Walnut). Shoot me a PM if you’re interested.

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/376 "2011-11-21T15:50:52Z")

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How are people going to vote tonight? Are you going to wait and see who dances best tonight, or vote for the person you see as having been the best dancer over all, or vote for the contestant you like the best? Or split your votes to exclude the one you think doesn’t belong in the final two?

I’m honestly asking, because I can’t decide. I want J.R. to win because I think he’s the best dancer of the bunch. But if he dances poorly tonight (due to his ankle or freestyle choreography that I really dislike), I’m not sure what to do. Ricki has danced well and Derek has been utterly brilliant, and Rob has improved so much from what he was initially, well managed by Cheryl.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/377 "2011-11-21T16:27:13Z")

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I’m thinking the same as Oy.

I want to see J.R. win. But won’t vote for him unless he delivers some good dances in the finals.

If J.R’s ankle is a problem and his dances are terrible. Then I’ll support whoever dances the best in the finals. Ricki/Rob doesn’t really matter to me.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/378 "2011-11-21T16:39:32Z")

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Good to know I’m not the only one who will be going through withdrawal next Monday.

I’ve been thinking about this too, and have reached the same conclusion – hope that JR has a good night so I can vote for him with a clear conscience, otherwise wait and see who moves me tonight. I adore Derek – what a nice guy he seems to be, as well as a wonderful dancer and a superb choreographer – but Ricki is “oh yeah, his partner this season” rather than someone I’m invested in. Rob has caught the DWTS spirit and garnered my support for that reason.

Can’t wait for tonight’s show!

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/379 "2011-11-21T17:23:29Z")

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HOw pathetic are we to be all Sturm und Drang angst (gotta love the Germans!) over a mirror ball trophy? 😃

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-fall-2011/594101/380 "2011-11-21T20:36:00Z")

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I like Ricki and Derek, because I found their dances outstanding. Big fan of their Tango, their Quickstep and their Rumba because of not only the choreography but the technique… I like JR and Karina too, very much… their Jives and Samba were good and crowd pleasing, but the technique wasn’t always clean… and Rob has managed to capture 3rd very well. So I go for the best dancer, but I know how people like the entertainer to win.

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