# Dancing with the Stars, Spring 2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 2, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952 "2010-03-02T02:55:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/81 "2010-04-06T13:30:06Z")
I agree that this season seems lackluster. I have to fast-forward through Kate’s part because I dislike her so much, and Buzz’s part because it’s just sad. Derek shines, as usual. Chad was better than last week, but that’s not saying much. The skater understands the total concept (pleasing the judges but remembering the audience keeps him in) and has a good shot. Neicy is appealing, but her waltz didn’t have any rise and fall. Mostly I fast-forward to the dances, and scores. Still not liking Brooke in the back and the “Celebriquarium” or whatever they’re calling having the stars out front. StG ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/82 "2010-04-06T14:09:38Z")
There’s no question in my mind that Derek is one very sharp cookie, and deliberately choreographed that routine to get lower judges’ scores without reflecting on the PCD’s actual ability. Nicole is too obviously a ringer, and he needed to make her appear vulnerable. I also suspect that the bit of drama they showed in the training footage was, if not staged, certainly played up. I’m guessing that some time in the next few weeks, the PCD will either have a slight stumble or a wardrobe malfunction, or something else that makes her less than perfect in one of her dances. I agree that this season’s field is less than stellar. Other than the two ringers, Evan and the PCD, there’s very little ability being shown. Niecy’s terrific foxtrot last week seems to have been an aberration. Pamela and Erin show a little potential. The rest were more painful than pleasant to watch. Kate did a Paso that Aldrin could have been proud of, but no one else, and her crocodile tears for the woes of being famous were laughable. Buzz is sad, although I’ll continue voting for him until Kate is gone. ---
**Author:** ![jacquilynne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jacquilynne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacquilynne)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/83 "2010-04-06T14:39:02Z")
Wow, Kate is really, truly, godawfully bad at this. And she looked like crap, too – usually at least hair and wardrobe manage to pull their shit together on this show. The overblown-even-for-DWtS makeup and the ill-fitting corset were both abominations, and yet neither of them was even half as ugly as the ratty hair extension. > [@](#): > > Secondly, I’m actually finding myself impressed by Pamela and her thoroughly professional attitude. Maybe the drama’s been adited out, for whatever reason, but it appears she just goes out and works, without wallowing in all the histrionics that pretty much define the rest of this group. Hope she sticks around for a few more weeks. I’ve seen a few instances of Pammy speaking when she was just being a person instead of being PAMMY!, and she actually comes across as surprisingly smart and sincere. She takes a lot of flack for being involved with PETA, but I don’t think her activism is as knee-jerk ‘aww, cute widdle animals’ as it’s sometimes perceived. It’s PETA, so it’s obviously extreme, but it does seem genuine and like something she’s thought a lot about. I’ve also seen clips of her emceeing a Fashion Cares event where she seemed really, well, real. Is anyone else already thinking ahead to how awesome Derek & Nicole’s freestyle is going to be? ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/84 "2010-04-06T14:47:38Z")
Who thinks Charo should be a contestant next time? ---
**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/85 "2010-04-06T15:03:59Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > Who thinks Charo should be a contestant next time? I do! She’d do circles around Cloris Leachman! We should come up with our dream team of B, C, & D celebrities we’d like to see do a season of DWTS (or has that already been threaded?) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/86 "2010-04-06T15:13:10Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Was Louie trying to tell us, ever ever so subtly, that he’s gay? > > I don’t know who Aiden is and don’t really care. Subtle as a 2x4 to the back of the head. Ditto on Aiden. Perhaps I was just comfortable with the old co-host, the old set and the old graphics, but phooey on all the changes this season. And I think they’re playing up the backstage drama, to the detriment of what made the show a success in the first place. It was always just fun and goofy…now they’ve given us a cast full of drama queens so they’re trying to make lemonade, by giving us video clips of tears and door-slamming. And it stinks. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/87 "2010-04-06T17:16:11Z")
Frankly, I’d like to see Jay Osmond have his turn on DWTS. Or if we want a younger performer, maybe Jimmy Osmond. ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/88 "2010-04-06T17:40:11Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Was Louie trying to tell us, ever ever so subtly, that he’s gay? Yah, that was _not_ a message that can be described as subtle, and Louis’ orientation has been publicly known for a long time. I didn’t know that he was in a serious relationship, but it sounds like he may be if he is crying on his partner about how he can’t get married. He’s been campaigning pretty heavily in California for same-sex marriage, too, as I understand it. I would love to see Charo on DwtS. She’d be a ringer, but a ringer old enough that she might not actually be a problem like Nicole. ---
**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/89 "2010-04-06T17:46:19Z")
What’s the DWTS formula again? I’m really working on this dream team concept in my head. One old person One football player/ex-jock One soap star One former teen star One Olympic athlete One current pop singer One pin-up girl One curvy girl One reality star One younger star (usually Disney related) ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/90 "2010-04-06T17:50:55Z")
What’s the difference between a pin-up girl and a curvy girl? Or are you using ‘curvy’ as code for ‘overweight?’ ---
**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/91 "2010-04-06T18:05:18Z")
pin-up girl = Playboy/SI Swimsuit/model girl that would pose in Maxim. Curvy girl = girl who may be overweight, fuller figured, or just curvy rather than anorexic (they’ve had all of those) ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/92 "2010-04-06T18:11:56Z")
> [@melodyharmonius](#): > > One old person > One football player/ex-jock > One soap star > One former teen star > One Olympic athlete > One current pop singer > One pin-up girl > One curvy girl > One reality star > One younger star (usually Disney related) So this season we have: old person: Buzz Aldrin football player: Chad Ochocinco soap star: Aidan Turner former teen star: Shannon Doherty Olympic athlete: Evan Lysacek pop singer: Pussycat Doll Pin-up girl: Pamela Anderson curvy girl: Niecy Nash reality star: Kate Gosselin, The Bachelor younger star: none And Erin the ESPN sportscaster left over. Man, this really is a lame season! ---
**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/93 "2010-04-06T18:15:19Z")
i agree Oy, I agree. I would put Erin in as the Disney-Related tie-in, since ESPN is owned by them. And in the past, they’ve usually had a male comedian/sit com actor (like John Ratzenberger or Adam Corolla, but I don’t see that either). My brain hurts - was it 11 last season? ---
**Author:** ![Boggette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@Boggette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boggette)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/94 "2010-04-06T21:23:59Z")
Please, please, please send Kate home. Holy cow. I can dance better than that. She’s like dancing with a stickman. And speaking of stickman, last week Bog said Ochocinco looked like the Pumpkin King from The Nightmare Before Christmas. _snerk_ ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/95 "2010-04-06T23:21:27Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > … > Buzz is sad, although I’ll continue voting for him until Kate is gone. I hope others think the same way. It would probably cruel to keep him around long enough to have to do the fast Latin dances but I’d like to see him outlast some annoying people. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/96 "2010-04-07T01:49:28Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > I hope others think the same way. It would probably cruel to keep him around long enough to have to do the fast Latin dances but I’d like to see him outlast some annoying people. Nope, he’s outta there – for which I thank god. Let’s get rid of Kate next, and that will take care of the worst of the “please don’t make me watch this” non-dancing, we can pick off the rest of the mediocre (the jock, the soaper), and go on to watching some entertaining dancing for a few weeks till they coronate the PCD. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/97 "2010-04-07T02:08:39Z")
I heard the Queen B wasn’t even in the bottom this week. I’m glad Buzz is getting out injury free. The fast steps would be too much for him. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/98 "2010-04-07T13:45:08Z")
I can’t believe that Kate wasn’t even in the bottom two. Somewhere out there, apparently she has a following. Strange, since she not only comes across as unbelievably awkward on the dance floor, but extremely obnoxious in person. I mean, I could get it if she were presenting as a lovely human being, but thus far, she’s only been whiny, self-indulgent, and annoying. I figured sentiment would prevent what happened last night, although I can’t say I’m terribly sorry. But I was surprised (and, if not for Kate, would have been gratified) that The Bachelor was in the bottom two. **twickster** , I don’t think the PCD is a done deal. I think Evan has a shot. That’s the only thing that’s making this season interesting at all - which of the two ringers will win? If Nicole had anyone but Derek or Maks as a partner, I’d say Evan was a shoe-in, but both Derek and Maks have followings of their own, and thus to some extent overcome the fact that Nicole is a Pussycat Doll, which I think will work against her otherwise. On the whole, the voting audience is not a demographic which applauds being beautiful or sexy in and of itself. Models and beauty queens usually go down fast (Brooke being the obvious exception), and remember, Pamela was in the bottom two last week after very good judges’ scores. The Pussycat Dolls are not exactly a super well-known pop group; basically, a PCD is a Playboy Bunny who can carry a tune and dance. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/99 "2010-04-07T14:15:37Z")
Seeing Kate, Buzz Aldrin and the other real novices dance has been a revelation. The format of DWTS is somewhat of a sham. It’s really not possible to teach someone a new dance every 5 days. If you grabbed any typical housewife or factory worker they’d look just as terrible as Kate Gosselin or that football player. DWTS needs people with some performing background. Actors, musicians etc. At least they understand the concept of creating a character on stage. In a weird & painful way, it is interesting to see complete novices attempt DWTS. I’m looking forward to the later episodes, that only feature people that can actually dance. ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952/100 "2010-04-07T14:17:58Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > I can’t believe that Kate wasn’t even in the bottom two. Me either. Is there some kind of organized campaign like Vote For The Worst I don’t know about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-with-the-stars-spring-2010/530952.md?page=6)