# Dancing women and a well-composed photo: kabbes does New York and lives to tell it **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 29, 2003, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627 "2003-07-29T12:13:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/1 "2003-07-29T12:13:36Z")
**Tales of New York** A tired, hot and sticky **kabbes** emerged from JFK airport at about 2pm on Wednesday 23rd July having taken an hour to get through US immigration. Hey, those guys weren’t letting just _anybody_ into the country. So that made me feel kinda special. A 30 minute taxi ride later to the hotel in Chinatown and having dropped off the stuff, the first thing I wanted to do was pay my respects to colleagues who died in the WTC. So I left the hotel at about 2:45pm and set off south. “Wow,” I thought, “there’s a lot of helicopters and police around.” “They must keep security tight these days,” I considered as I paused to let three screaming cop cars zoom past me. As I walked past City Hall, police presence was intensifying by the second, but I was hungry and such things were of secondary consideration as I turned into a Subway just after City Hall to order some kind of meat-and-condiment gap-filler. At this point, the radio was blaring something out that some part of my brain was telling me I should listen to. It seemed that shots had just been heard in City Hall and at that time they were suggesting that someone was firing out the window. I was impressed. Less than an hour away from the airport and I was already in the middle of an Authentic New York Experience. I continued my way to the site of the WTC but wasn’t prepared for the ghoulish mass of tourists with cameras who clearly treated the whole thing as the afternoon’s entertainment. I think it was one of the least pleasant sights I’ve come across. Where do these people come from? Do they really think that pointing their kodak over the fence and posing in front of the site is appropriate? Jeez. So I turned around to make my way back to the hotel. However, by that point the police had sealed off the area around City Hall and crowds were forming. So I decided to join in the world-renowned NY sport of gawking. An ABC newsman tried to clear some room on the pavement. In London this would have resulted in people meekly moving aside. Apparently in NY it instead provokes comments such as, “Hey, it’s a public sidewalk. I got every right.” The news guy commented on how crowds were now forming and the cameraman panned across, so within a couple of hours of arrival I was already on TV. That evening I tried to stay up as long as possible and so collapsed after a room service burger at the almost respectible time of 8:30pm. Thursday was the day I gave the course. In the evening I decided to do a bit of exploring to wondered around SoHo, TriBeCa and Grenwich Village. I had a nice meal with my book and returned to the hotel. I was just watching a film and wondering about bed when **Billdo** called. **Pucette** , **manhattan** and others were in a piano bar, I was told, do I want to go? Oh yes. Now, that bar was fantastic. Atmosphere was great. And it had the benefit of **Starkyld’s** \* ass. Not to mention **Pucette’s** cleavage. Let me explain. There’s this one particular song that seems to be a particular favorite. And when it got to a particular point in that particular song, the singer soberly informed us that at that point a member of the audience normally moons everyone. Sure enough, **Starkyld** was straight up there, showing us her particulars. With one star tattooed on each cheek. And thus a legend is born. And the cleavage? Well that was more to do with the shirt that a song. But there are some photos that I won’t go into in too much detail that paint more words than my 1000 or so here. Fast forward to Friday night and the evening of the DopeDinner (MidWordCapitalisations are definitely all the thing in NyC). Firstly I got to have a very nice chat at my end of the table with **BigGirl** + son ( **Zoltar** , was it?), **delphica** , **vix** and **Cosmo** (and was it you, **jadis**?, who were immediately surrounding me. (Apologies to those who were then 1 distant, 2 distant and so on, but if I start trying to remember exactly who was where I’m onto a loser – I’d had three pints before any of the rest of you even got there). I remember that we discussed the exit routes of big ducks and the finer points of cornflowers. I also remember that the drawings done one the tablecloth with the crayons provided were somewhat disturbing. After the meal I moved myself up the other end of the table and found myself trying to describe the rules of cricket to **monkeymule** , **manhattan** , **Oxymoron** + very charming boyf (and **Canby**? Can’t remember who else was listening now, since I was in full flow. Again, apologies.) I think I did about as reasonable a job of explaining lbw as could be expected under the circumstances. Hmm. I definitely remember conversations with others ( **billdo** , I’m looking at you) but can’t fit them into the above. Sorry to anyone I haven’t mentioned by name. You’re ace too. Onto Walkers, bar of bras. At least three, to be precise, hanging from various parts of the bar. Which included a large stuffed alligator hanging from the ceiling. Who was it that decided at one point that it needed a cigarette? Was that you, **Wonko**? **Wonko** is very droll, incidentally. But you probably already knew that. But that evening will be particularly remembered for **Canby’s** and **biggirl’s** decision to strut their funkies on the bar, with the whole bar cheering them on. You go, girls. Saturday was MOMA day. Or more specifically, MOMAQNS (being NY, should that not be MoMAQns?) Take it from me: Max Beckmann was one disturbed individual. He must have been a laugh riot to have around, what with his dwellings on torture and fish. Don’t ask. **Billdo** , **jadis** , **vix** and I thus took in some culture followed by some greasy food in a Queens diner. We put Roberta Flack, Elvis, Tony Bennet (and what was the other?) on the booth jukebox. I’d never seen a booth jukebox before – I’m going to start a petition to have them added to every restaurant in the land. Not a bad merry-go-round for just a few days away. I had a blast and would heartily recommend all of these fine people to you all. I hope that I can reciprocate the hospitality some day. One last word to say thanks to **mannie** for your role in organising Walkers and particular thanks to **billdo** , who started the DopeDinner thread thus galvanising support, organised my arrival at the piano bar on Thursday and sorted my MOMA visit on Saturday. Above and beyond, **Bill** , above and beyond. Thanks one and all Patrick ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/2 "2003-07-29T12:15:18Z")
Holy crap – I dunno how those carriage returns got in there. Great. Sorry about that. Maybe if I report the post… Hehehe pan ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/3 "2003-07-29T12:36:51Z")
what no photo documentaion? It was a dream wasn’t it? I’d just like to know. What did you dop off in China town? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/4 "2003-07-29T13:21:13Z")
_pant pant pant_ How’s that? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/5 "2003-07-29T13:47:42Z")
Well, at least you knocked up a decent OP. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/6 "2003-07-29T15:29:22Z")
Oh **Coldie** , that’s not right at _all_ 😉 (Thanks man) **Phlosphr** , there is indeed photographic evidence. But I’m not sure I have the authority to link to them… pan ---
**Author:** ![vix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a88e4f/32.png) [@vix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vix)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/7 "2003-07-30T00:00:23Z")
Well, I certainly enjoyed meeting you, too, **kabbes**. However, I think you have my nickname confused with someone else’s. An understandable mistake, as you met so damn many of us at once, while drinking. (I’m the tall one with the short, curly, dark hair). Anyway, as much as I would’ve like to, I didn’t go to MoMAQNS with you, as I was hiking that day. ---
**Author:** ![Jadis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@Jadis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jadis)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/8 "2003-07-30T01:27:48Z")
The other Doper who went to MoMA with us was **beerchick**. 🙂 [sub]And don’t think I’ve forgotten how you rejected me, **vix** …:😭:[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![beerchick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@beerchick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beerchick)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/9 "2003-07-30T03:00:24Z")
**Jadis** thanks for the correction. I am the short curly haired doper with glasses. Patty aka Beerchick ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@MonkeyMule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMule)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/10 "2003-07-30T03:56:12Z")
I’d have joined you at MoMa Kabbles, (as my work ID gets me and a guest in free) but as BigGIrl can tell you, I was having problems keeping my insides in on the brooklyn bridge and I was hung over untill 11, and then just lazy the rest of the morning and afternoon. And then the baseball started, so you know how that goes ::chug chug chug:: ---
**Author:** ![Banger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@Banger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banger)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/11 "2003-07-30T05:35:52Z")
Geez… **kabbes** must have mentioned every single Doper at the Friday night dinner and drinks afterwards but me, and I talked with him about cricket and later at the bar for a half an hour! Ya wanker 😛 - **Banger** , the (apparently) unknown Doper ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/12 "2003-07-30T11:07:34Z")
Well I got real names at the do and not doper names, didn’t I! Sorry for the **beerchick/vix** mixup but I didn’t like to use real names. Similarly **banger** , I don’t think I ever realised that you were actually **banger** , so I apologise for that too. Next time I go to one of these things, I’m going to insist on a table layout with actual doper names on it – I get tripped up every bloody time! (Only two mistakes? That’s pretty good going for me) pan ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/13 "2003-07-30T11:58:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kabbes \* > (Only two mistakes? That’s pretty good going for me) Actually, buddy, we’ve been being polite. Other than the **vix** / **beerchick** mixup and forgetting **Banger** there were a few other oopsies. Let’s take it from the top, shall we. At the piano bar, you forgot **Canby** , and I don’t know how one could forget **Canby**. (While there, however, I did learn that the British pronounce the term for someone who plays the Saxophone rather amusingly. Red blooded Americans say Sax-o-phon-ist, while John Bull says Sax-oph-on-ist. But neither of us could figure out where one could get a Saxophonist hat.) As to those surrounding you at dinner, **biggirl** ’s son is **zoltarb** , and what am I, chopped liver? On the other end of the table, you forgot **lisabethnyc**. We won’t even go into the middle-of-the-tablers that you ignored. At the bar, **Wonko** the droll (and thank you for exactly the right word to describe his humor) is actually **Wonko the Sane**. Having gone on on your sins of comission, we won’t get into further sins of omission. Your penalty is to come back to New York and get it right next time. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/14 "2003-07-30T12:11:06Z")
Oh if I must. But hey – I never claimed to be giving a complete listing of those at dinner! I didn’t even manage to get right the end-of-tablers that I spent most conversation with, what chance did you lot have? But I extend apologies to **lisabethnyc** , **Canby** (can’t _believe_ I didn’t mention you at the piano bar) and all the others too. Except **Wonko**. I knew _his_ UN (I read my Adams), I just thought that I’d shorten it. Didn’t that turn out to be a false economy? pan ---
**Author:** ![Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wonko_The_Sane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dancing-women-and-a-well-composed-photo-kabbes-does-new-york-and-lives-to-tell-it/191627/15 "2003-08-01T22:10:03Z")
Kabbes- It’s rather odd, you see. There’s this _false wonko_ slouching about the boards, and he’s just wonko, no sanity, and he has only four posts as of today. He makes me nervous. Though mostly, he throws off my vanity searches.