# Daniel Boone **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 11, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354 "2014-11-11T17:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/21 "2014-11-11T19:46:08Z")
Yes, I heard that racist version in AZ as a child, and my friend heard it in IN about the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/22 "2014-11-11T19:48:49Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Pre-internet memes are interesting. I wonder how long it took to travel from coast to coast back then. I always thought it was funny that in the '60s we were still singing naughty schoolyard ditties about WWII. (“Whistle while you work,” “There’s a German in the grass,” “Tramp, tramp, tramp, the boys are marching/Here comes Hitler at the door…” etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/23 "2014-11-11T19:49:26Z")
CalMeachum writes: \> I suspect that Buddy Ebsen got to be “Jed” Clampett on The Beverly Hillbillies in \> large part because he’d played Davy’s buddy Bob Russel, also a backwoodsman. Surprisingly, Ebsen got cast as Jed because he had played a rural character in _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_, at least according to some sources: [http://classichollywoodcentral.com/?p=63](http://classichollywoodcentral.com/?p=63) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/24 "2014-11-11T19:50:13Z")
> [@campp](#): > > Yes, I heard that racist version in AZ as a child, and my friend heard it in IN about the same time. Ditto in Minnesota. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/25 "2014-11-11T19:51:07Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > I always thought it was funny that in the '60s we were still singing naughty schoolyard ditties about WWII. (“Whistle while you work,” “There’s a German in the grass,” “Tramp, tramp, tramp, the boys are marching/Here comes Hitler at the door…” etc.) I only heard the first one. The ‘wartime ditty’ I remember from then was: _In 1964 My father went to war He opened the door And [fell/peed] on the floor And that was the end of the war_ ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/26 "2014-11-11T20:01:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I only heard the first one. > > The ‘wartime ditty’ I remember from then was: > > _In 1964 > My father went to war > He opened the door > And [fell/peed] on the floor > And that was the end of the war_ Yep, I remember that one as well, but we must have used 1944 or 1954 since it probably \*was \*1964…or even earlier. The others I mentioned were: (to the tune of “Assembly”) _There’s a German in the grass With a bullet in his ass Pull it out, pull it out, like a good Girl Scout!_ and _Tramp, tramp, tramp, the boys are marching Here comes Hitler at the door If I only had the chance I would kick him in the pants Then there wouldn’t be a Hitler anymore._ I never heard the one about Hitler’s testicular endowment as a kid; the version of “Colonel Bogey March” we had was the one about the emetic properties of Comet. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/27 "2014-11-11T20:09:43Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > CalMeachum writes: > > \> I suspect that Buddy Ebsen got to be “Jed” Clampett on The Beverly Hillbillies in > \> large part because he’d played Davy’s buddy Bob Russel, also a backwoodsman. > > Surprisingly, Ebsen got cast as Jed because he had played a rural character in _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_, at least according to some sources: > > [Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961) - Classic Hollywood Central](http://classichollywoodcentral.com/?p=63) Well, it doesn’t exactly say that – it says the part revitalized his career, which means that he was brought to public notice, not because he played a country character. And possibly the reason he got the role as a country character was because he’d played one in Davy Crockett. In any event, I’ll bet his life would’ve been a lot different if he hadn’t inhaled all that aluminum dust and gotten to sick to continue as The Tin Woodsman in _The Wizard of Oz_. We’d all be csaying “Who the hell is Jack Haley?” ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/28 "2014-11-11T20:15:04Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Ditto in Minnesota. Also southwest Kansas. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/29 "2014-11-11T20:15:46Z")
What a Boone. What a doer. What a dream-comer-truer was he. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/30 "2014-11-11T20:34:55Z")
So was “What do you do when you’re stranded and you ain’t got a roll?” as well travelled? ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/31 "2014-11-11T20:36:48Z")
Look, CalMeacham, I’m not going to spend weeks on this research just to please you. Many websites claim that Ebsen was cast in _The Beverly Hillbillies_ because of his performance in _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_. I suspect nothing I can find would satisfy you. Why don’t you do some research and write the definitive book on this subject? I’ve got too many other books to write that will be the definitive account of various topics mentioned on the SDMB: [http://news.moviefone.com/2011/10/05/25-things-breakfast-at-tiffanys-anniversary/](http://news.moviefone.com/2011/10/05/25-things-breakfast-at-tiffanys-anniversary/) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/32 "2014-11-11T20:43:09Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > So was > > “What do you do when you’re stranded > and you ain’t got a roll?” > > as well travelled? Oh, yeah! That one spread like lightning! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/33 "2014-11-11T20:45:13Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If you don’t mind my asking, where did you grow up? I’ve actually wondered before how regional that “variation” was. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > For me, San Diego. And I heard the same song growing up in the opposite end of the country in rural northern New England. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/34 "2014-11-11T20:55:36Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > The producers of “Daniel Boone” originally wanted to make a series based on Disney’s version of Davy Crockett, but couldn’t get permission from Disney. You know, don’t you, how Parker got the role as Davey Crockett? He had a bit part as a GI in _ **Them!** _, the '50s horror movie about giant ants (his one line was something like “It’s amazing how fast those things can move!”); Disney, who was having trouble finding the right actor to play the lead in his new series, was watching the movie one afternoon and had a flash of inspiration when he saw Parker walk on screen: “_That’s_ Davey Crockett!” And the rest, as they say, is “history.” 😃 I’m just old enough to remember (barely) the series when it was first run. _ **Daniel Boone** _, on the other hand, I remember very well. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/35 "2014-11-11T21:01:01Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > As a result, Boomers have the two men – who were sorta contemporaries (although Daniel was born half a century before Davy) and had very different histories – frequently confused. They were both frontiersmen and folk heroes. People do sort of muddle historical events into big piles. Historical era 1: America was discovered by Columbus. The Pilgrims landed in Massachusetts. John Smith and Pocahontas hooked up in Virginia. Witches got burned in Salem. America fought a Revolution to win its independence from England. George Washington was President. Historical era 2: The West was settled. Gold was discovered in California. Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln were President. Texas fought Mexico at the Alamo and then became a state. We had a Civil War. Cowboys drove herds of cattle to market. Custer lost the Battle of Little Big Horn. Historical era 3: The twentieth century. Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, the Wright brothers invented the airplane, and Henry Ford invented the automobile. Thomas Edison invented everything else. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Delano Roosevelt were President. We had Prohibition and a Great Depression. We fought two world wars. There were movies and then radio and then television. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/36 "2014-11-11T21:03:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > People do sort of muddle historical events into big piles. Yeah, but nowhere near as accurately as you just did. I’m impressed! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/37 "2014-11-11T21:04:59Z")
Nitpick: Bell invented the telephone in 1876. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/38 "2014-11-11T22:17:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Davy, Davy Crewcut! The cat with the coonskin cap! (The way dad sang it.) Born on a tabletop in Joe’s Cafe Dirtiest place in the USA. . . ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/39 "2014-11-11T22:26:20Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > If you don’t mind my asking, where did you grow up? I’ve actually wondered before how regional that “variation” was. Maryland Catholic school, 1967-ish. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354/40 "2014-11-12T00:02:46Z")
I don’t recall ever hearing a racist version of the Boone song in my little section of Georgia. We did have the Branded/Stranded parody & the 1964/Daddy-goes-to-war song though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daniel-boone/704354.md?page=3)