# Danielinthewolvesden - You're doing it yet again...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2000, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497 "2000-08-31T14:45:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/21 "2000-08-31T17:37:54Z")

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I offer as evidence: Wildest Bill.

While some people here might have treated him somewhat unkind, I do think that is the exception rather than the rule of SDMB posters.

I know that I personally have not “slammed” him.

I found out through a very amused Lauralee not long ago that the poster is actually \*_billy the witness_ from LBMB - Yes, the person I called an “idiot” just above.

I did not know the connection at all. However, I did see a situation close to what Lauralee mentioned above - a newbie Christian posting here.

And I did not slam him, and again, let me state that most people here did not slam him.

I will stand by my “idiot” comment because he was (and still might be) an idiot over there with some of the things he said.

I figure either he is on good behavior here because of the nature of the board, or he might have learned something from lurking here and maybe from comments by the likes of Soul Frost, Falcon, myself and others who posted over there.

Either way, until he says something worthy of my ire, him being a Christian - even one who drove me fucking NUTS over at LBMB - will not make me slam him.

In fact, I welcome him here!

However, should he say something… Well, idiotic… I’ll react appropriately.

That was not a thread, Wildest Bill… It was merely a friendly warning! 😉

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Yer pal,  
Satan

[sub]I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR:  
Four months, three weeks, one day, 15 hours, 36 minutes and 37 seconds.  
5786 cigarettes not smoked, saving $723.25.  
Extra life with Drain Bead: 2 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 10 minutes.[/sub]

**_"Satan is not an unattractive person."_-Drain Bead**  
[sub]Thanks for the ringing endorsement, honey![/sub]

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/22 "2000-08-31T17:43:18Z")

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whoops, please excuse the double pot. My left hand knoweth not what my right hand is doing. (eww, stop doing that, right hand, you’ll go blind) 😃

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/23 "2000-08-31T17:43:45Z")

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> However, prepare for one of my “rants”. One of the reasons, and the biggest single reason wiccans/neopagans have a problem with public perceptions is they insist on calling themselves “Witches”.

I do??? Fuck! All this time that I’ve been disliking the term “witch” and distancing myself from it, and not referring to myself by it, and asking others not to refer to me by it… I’ve really been insisting on calling myself it? Who knew?? I’m so glad we have Daniel here to tell us what we think and do! It’s also convenient that all wiccans and neopagans are absolutely identical. Makes it that much easier, after all.

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**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/24 "2000-08-31T17:50:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by goboy \*
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> The word is spelled “gestures”. Jesters are comical fellows who prance and act foolish in bells and motley. Wow, I guess the word does fit you, Wildest Bill.  
> \*\*

Hey, I resemble that remark! And let me tell you, all these foolish bells and motley are a bitch to get drycleaned!

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**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/25 "2000-08-31T17:54:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> \*\*  
> I resent this statement because it is unfactual(in otherwords it is plum unaccurate) and it is just plain untrue. I know goboy would like to lump me in some category of people but he can not do it this time and I have proof. Take a look started a post with the topic on your top 5 sports cars choices. And I responded to a topic on not wearing seatbelts on motorcycle helmets. And if you look at the times and dates of post they are before you(goboy) viciously attacted me unwarrated again on this one. Yes. Just imagine me acting like Ace Ventura pet detective when he is right about something with words and jesters that is how I am acting right now! Ha, SO THERE! Ooohh it feels sooo gooood to be sooo right. Alrighty then. \*\*

_Snork_ “Unfactual?” “Plum unaccurate?” “_Words and jesters?_” ROFL! That’s priceless, man. You’re killing me!

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**Author:** ![Lauralee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lauralee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lauralee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/26 "2000-08-31T17:57:59Z")

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Far be it from me not to join the grammar/spelling police. After all, nobody we know would screw up their codes would they? Or mistake “threat” for “thread”.

And I’ll just leave goboy’s “double pot” alone…

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/27 "2000-08-31T18:05:13Z")

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> And I’ll just leave goboy’s “double pot” alone

Goboy hangs his head in shame. Weeping bitterly, he whispers, “Mea culpa,” and beats himself to death with his office thesaurus.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/28 "2000-08-31T18:18:22Z")

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> I found out through a very amused Lauralee not long ago that the poster is actually billy the witness from LBMB

Damn, sorry Brian. I figured that from Wildest’s first post. I thought you knew and were being snide. Apologies for doubting you, and had I know I would have let you know earlier in the week.

-a-

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/29 "2000-08-31T18:18:31Z")

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Now come on… _I_ wasn’t the spelling police, darn it!

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Yer pal,  
Satan

[sub]I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR:  
Four months, three weeks, one day, 16 hours, 17 minutes and 18 seconds.  
5787 cigarettes not smoked, saving $723.39.  
Extra life with Drain Bead: 2 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 15 minutes.[/sub]

**_"Satan is not an unattractive person."_-Drain Bead**  
[sub]Thanks for the ringing endorsement, honey![/sub]

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**Author:** ![jmullaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jmullaney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmullaney)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/30 "2000-08-31T18:26:00Z")

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I got to go with **DanielinthewolvesDen** on this one.

Just look at some of the replies to **FriendOfGod** in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=36728) – I think that is all the evidence he needs. FoG seems pretty darn sincere and he just gets mocked.

Just a little bit more of “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothing at all” principle wouldn’t hurt in GD.

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**Author:** ![Lauralee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lauralee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lauralee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/31 "2000-08-31T18:27:37Z")

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😃 Like I said, I just couldn’t help myself. But I promise to let you slide from now on.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/32 "2000-08-31T18:33:29Z")

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Originally posted by Satan:

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> Either way, until he says something worthy of my ire, him being a Christian - even one who drove me fucking NUTS over at LBMB - will not make me slam him.

That is the best compliment anybody has ever gave me as a Christian. I must be doing something right I drove Satan (skip the expletives)nuts. 😃

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> In fact, I welcome him here!

Thanks yankee boy. Glad to be here. You figured out who I was huh? I am going to have to have a word with that Lauralee. I kinda a missed you after a while no body got me to riled up like you did(goboy is trying though).

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> However, should he say something… Well, idiotic… I’ll react appropriately.
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> That was not a thread, Wildest Bill… It was merely a friendly warning! 😉

Like the ACLU bites!!!

I am sorry just couldn’t help it for old times sake. 😉 Also be careful about posting your picture around here. Drainy might just get jealous with the interest you are receiving. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lauralee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lauralee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lauralee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/33 "2000-08-31T18:38:20Z")

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🙂 I apologized over at the other board Billy. Go look.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/34 "2000-08-31T18:43:52Z")

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> Just a little bit more of “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothing at all” principle wouldn’t hurt in GD.

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

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**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/35 "2000-08-31T18:47:48Z")

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He seems like a decent guy.

OK. It is my impression that this board does not treat Fundamentalist Christians the same as other posters, irrespective of their debating techniques. I must qualify that I did not pay a whole lot of attention to the threads in which the great battles spoken of took place. But I did look in a little, and received the opposite impression from that given here. I saw reasoned arguments put forth by FoG met with ridicule and snide contempt, instead of logical refutation.

I would suggest to the posters here that there is a very low percentage of discussions **of every sort** in which the debaters do not each feel that the other is being irrational and not adhering to proper debating form. The fact that there is such a general opinion concerning Fundamentalists may be more a result of consensus about their conclusions, more than a genuine difference in their methods.

FTR, I do not think that I, as an Orthodox Jew, have been badly treated by this board. ( **Satan** , you misunderstood Daniel’s remark about this). Nor do I think my fellows have been so. But Fundamentalist Christianity is a far more powerful force in this country than orthodox Judaism. Thus people are much more threatened by it, and **hostile to** it.

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**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/36 "2000-08-31T19:02:07Z")

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Wildest Bill is billy the witness??? And he never said hello to his favorite crazy liberal???

I’m HURT, billy!!! 😃

Anyway…not much I can add to Satan’s OP, since I agree with it. Good show, hon.

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**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/37 "2000-08-31T19:03:28Z")

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**Gaudere** ,

Please add my name to the long list of young men who pledge to you their undying love, respect and devotion.

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**Author:** ![jmullaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jmullaney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmullaney)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/38 "2000-08-31T19:51:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gaudere \*  
> \*\*Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. \*\*

If I’m next to a guy on the sidewalk who, looking up, points out to me that a grand piano is falling off the skyscraper above us, and advises that I should get out of the way lest the piano crush me, I think I have a certain moral obligation, even if I don’t think the piano exists, to point out to the gentleman that he, too, should consider moving out of the way of the piano.

Now, we can debate that depending on which way the wind is blowing whether one or either one of us is really in any peril. But I don’t think you will ever convince me that I should “be nice” and not point out what I honestly percieve to be flaws in the man’s position, even if he finds it very insulting and judgemental for me to think that, if there is a piano, he’s not somehow immune to the gravity of the situation.

Outside of that, I have said my fair share of dumb and unfeeling things and I am trying to improve my ways, honest. (IIRC, as Kirk once said to Scotty, “Good thing you’re an engineer – with tact like that you’d never make it as a ship’s counselor.”)

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/39 "2000-08-31T20:18:16Z")

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**Tymp** : You’re just sucking up so I’ll clean up your multipost in GD. (Hey, it worked!) 😉 Just kidding. Thank you. 🙂

Well, jmullaney: your assertion that there is a piano about to fall is suspect–salvation is not near so clear-cut to all as pianos falling. A better analogy of your beliefs would be “I believe that if a person owns possessions a piano will fall on them at some distant point, although I have no proof of this besides my personal interpretation of the second-hand 2000 year old words of a intinerant preacher. So I will constantly rail against those who ridiculously think they are safe against falling pianos yet have possessions.” Quite frankly, the only differnce I see between you and FriendofGod is that your interpretations differ and he seems quite a bit nicer; you’re at least as dogmatic, close-minded and insulting in debate as he. You’re both beating us about the head with the One True Way you, personally, have access to, wailing about imaginary pianos as an excuse to question the honesty, intelligence and faith of people who believe differently. A healthy dollop of humility and respect would serve you well, Mr. I’m-an-atheist-but-I-still-know-who-is-Saved-and-who-is-not-and-will-proclaim-My-judgment-on-them-at-any-opportunity, my-interpretation-of-scripture-is-the-only-right-one-and-I-won’t-listen-to-any-others-la-la-la-la, crappy-close-minded-argument-makin’, it’s-truly-moral-to-do-no-work-and-let-those-who-DO-work-feed-me, Pepperoni-roll-conjurin’, once-called-Jesus-claimin’, believin’-in-God-but-still-naming-himself-an-atheist, arrogant, self-righteous, whiny “lost sheep” of “The Only True Christians”. Baaaaah. 🙂

HUGS!  
Gaudere

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2000, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danielinthewolvesden-youre-doing-it-yet-again/31497/40 "2000-08-31T20:25:19Z")

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\*Originally posted by Falcon \*

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> B]Wildest Bill is billy the witness??? And he never said hello to his favorite crazy liberal???
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> I’m HURT, billy!!! 😃

I wanted to falcon I really did. But that would have blown my cover I thought the name alone “wildest bill” would give it away. I was in incognito(looked it up just to make sure goboy wouldn’t nail me). Anyway Hi Falcon!

BTW What was Andros’s name on the LBMB and what gave me away to him?

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