# Dante's Action Hero Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [September 29, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988 "2015-09-29T22:59:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/461 "2015-10-11T12:35:19Z")

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> [@sangfroid](#):
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> Still trying to make sense of all this, people, and I’m coming up short.
> 
> I am in the process of reevaluating our interactions, but there isn’t as much to go on as my earlier game here. And even then I still managed to frak things up until the very end.
> 
> For the moment, until I can complete my list (we do have some time, so let’s be thorough), I will **VOTE SARIO** even at the risk of looking pile-on-ish. The reasoning is sound, to me.
> 
> Scum would have no reason to cast the clinch vote. Let’s see if **Sario** mounts a sensible defense, and hope we might have just caught our first black hat.

Scum would have EVERY reason to cast the clinch vote they were certain one of their number was going down, and wanted to help their appearance as Town.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/462 "2015-10-11T12:58:45Z")

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> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> 😕 What makes you think that?

They killed two of us Night Two, so there is clearly a killing ability other than the traditional Night Kill such as (/me searches mafiascum) executioner. Okay, that’s a stretch, but it could also be something town or third-party like serial killer or vigilante. I’m starting to lean toward a vigilante townie that accidentally town killed.

I think commuting could work to both prevent the NK and to stop an ability from being used at night. As such, the results of a no-kill not 100% vindication of **Astral** , but the lack of likely night killing mafia roles moves **Astral** a lot closer to confirmed town. It’s also possible that commuting him prevents the NK and he’s scum, but that’s not how I read it traditionally. Dante could spin it to work that way though.

**Astral** do you have anything to add? You’ve been verbose previous days.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/463 "2015-10-11T13:03:50Z")

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From Tomba’s post 351:

> [@](#):
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> Continuing my attempt to glean clues from Dante’s narration, I note we’ve been informed that Martin Riggs from Lethal Weapon is in this game. In the movie, he’s a psychologically unstable cop. A good role fit for that character would be the Paranoid Gun Owner, a townie who automatically kills the first player (from either side) who uses any sort of Night action on him.

This is exactly what happened last night. Tomba’s claimed to be Riggs. It is not a scum kill.

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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/464 "2015-10-11T14:26:41Z")

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\*\*MOD NOTE \*\*

OK, first of all, Good Morning players.

Second, there appears to be a little bit of confusion amongst some players. Now I don’t want to give  
away anything, but then again, I’m aware that my modding style is a little different than what you are used to here. So, with that being said, here are a couple clarifications.

A Town character in the narrative is Blue and Scum are Red. In regards to last night’s death of John McClane, let me just say that the Scum were not involved.

Now in regards to the Frank Martin character, I did use a variant on the Commuter role ability. A Commuter can take themselves out of play for the evening so that nothing can be done to them. I chose to change it up a bit to fit the character and so I made it a Transporter. In this case, Frank will take a player out of play for the night instead of himself. Taking that player out of play means they can’t be targeted but also they cannot target anyone else for that night.

I will say no more at the risk of overstepping the lines of fairness.

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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/465 "2015-10-11T15:05:01Z")

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Also, here is the Vote Count as of 11am EDT.

Sario - 4 (Mahaloth, Hooker Chemical, Professor Pepperwinkle, WF Tomba)  
There are 4 votes required for a lynch. The Day ends on Monday, tomorrow, at 7pm EDT.  
Play on, players!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/466 "2015-10-11T15:16:58Z")

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And sangfroid voted for Sario in post 458. But it was easy to miss.

Boy, won’t Sario be surprised when he returns.

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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/467 "2015-10-11T15:41:42Z")

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Correct, Professor. Thanks.

Sario - 5 (Mahaloth, Hooker Chemical, Professor Pepperwinkle, WF Tomba, Sangfroid )

Carry on, my wayward sons.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/468 "2015-10-11T16:24:19Z")

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Weekends are a busier time for me. I’m checking in now just before football starts, and I’ll be back later tonight because who cares about the 7:30 Giants-49ers game? Not this guy!

For now, **VOTE SARIO.** I find the current bevy of claims believable, but I’d like to revisit some posts. After the football games, I’m going to go back and reconsider the entire game and decide where I think we should go from here. I’d suggest we all do the same, because we need to nail this, and every subsequent lynch, from now on. There is a lot of day left, and I think we need to do a better job of questioning everything. WF Tomba has the right attitude.

More to come later! Hope you guys enjoy reading books.

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**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/469 "2015-10-11T16:36:54Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> HookerChemical. I thought it was a coin-flip between him and Mosier as to who was going to be killed, and I picked the wrong one.
> 
> We should probably lynch Sario next, then.

How did you come to this conclusion?

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/470 "2015-10-11T22:43:32Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> From Tomba’s post 351:  
> This is exactly what happened last night. Tomba’s claimed to be Riggs. It is not a scum kill.

Ah. Got it. My mistake. Sucks to lose the cop that way, especially after the deputy mis-lynch.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/471 "2015-10-11T23:15:01Z")

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> [@Sario](#):
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> How did you come to this conclusion?

Well, at the time I was under the impression that Astral was undeniably Town. That left you, sangfroid and Hooker to be the obvious scum.

Since Tomba showed me that’s not necessarily true, one of the four of you are Town. However, since Mahaloth saw you in the Night doing a Roleblocker activity, and since in Dante’s description Theo was doing something special in the night, it is not to much of a stretch to infer that you are Theo. Hence, the vote.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/472 "2015-10-11T23:47:29Z")

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Of sangfroid, Astral and Hooker, who looks the most town to you?

I’m thinking Hooker, but I can be persuaded otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Sario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sario/32/18580_2.png) [@Sario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sario)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/473 "2015-10-11T23:58:14Z")

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All things considered, I think I’ll take this opportunity to bow out.

Thanks for the game Dante, its been a lot of fun.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/474 "2015-10-12T00:23:32Z")

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So long, Sario, it really has been good having you around!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/475 "2015-10-12T00:23:33Z")

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> [@Sario](#):
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> All things considered, I think I’ll take this opportunity to bow out.
> 
> Thanks for the game Dante, its been a lot of fun.

Then I suggest we just end the Day. We have obviously caught scum.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/476 "2015-10-12T00:31:47Z")

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Ah, but we have a whole day to discuss which of the remainder are scum.

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**Author:** ![Dante\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@Dante\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante_G)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/477 "2015-10-12T01:13:58Z")

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\*\*MOD NOTE \*\*

We’ll, it’s true that a lynch is secured but I am currently posting on my phone until tomorrow afternoon, and I’d rather post a lynch narrative on a computer. I will end the day earlier though.

The Day will end tomorrow by 3pm EDT. Until then, continue discussion as you were.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/478 "2015-10-12T01:32:46Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Ouch. You have a point. I was assuming (foolish of me) that the Scum vote for a target, and that person is killed, and the whole “Karl is the hitman” was literary dressing on Dante’s part. That may well be wrong and Astral could very well be Karl. Pfui.

It could be literary dressing. I’ve been going back and forth on that. We just can’t be sure.

I wish I knew what our Cop did on Night 1. Too bad I killed him! :smack:

(Aside: Even if we manage to win, this is turning out to be a pretty dark, existentialist action movie, **Dante**. 🆒)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/479 "2015-10-12T01:35:01Z")

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I’m wondering who the last action hero is, and why nobody’s claimed the role yet.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantes-action-hero-mafia/732988/480 "2015-10-12T03:08:53Z")

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> [@Dante\_G](#):
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> The Day will end tomorrow by 3pm EDT. Until then, continue discussion as you were.

This is good. I don’t want the day to end before I’ve had a chance to finish revisiting the thread. Today ended up busier than I expected, and I’m not going to get a chance to finish with a comprehensive post tonight.

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