# dantheman.  You're such a putz!  About Euty....You too, Esprix.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 23, 2003, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283 "2003-07-23T00:56:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/81 "2003-07-24T03:24:06Z")

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Sam, indeed I am satisfied. Pisses me off when some Johnny-come-lately like Dantheman or Esprix get the credit for derailing a train when I put my two pennies on the rail before them. 😉

Guin, are you calling BooksWoods a dumbass because you disagree with what he or she said or because taunting Esprix is ill-advised?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/82 "2003-07-24T04:29:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Blackeyes \*  
> \*\*Care to elaborate on your point, **Guinastasia**?
> 
> It usually helps. \*\*

Nice try. She has 15k+ posts and probably a third of them are of the drive-by insult with zero content variety. Sometimes there will be up to three or four in just one thread. Occasionally, when called on it, she’ll say that she’ll try to stop but it never seems to happen.

Haj

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/83 "2003-07-24T04:33:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dropzone \*  
> A Pit thread would have been a more appropriate place to complain except THEY KEPT GETTING LOCKED!!! And the threat had been made **and followed through on** that anybody who started another one would be banned. Mea maxima culpa, as bad a choice as the Cafe Society thread was, IT WAS THE **ONLY** CHOICE AVAILABLE!

This is not true. The original thread was locked and discussion was shut down for a week while the staff dealt with what was, in most respects, an internal situation. One person was _temporarily_ banned for repeatedly flouting the request not to stir the shitcan while the situation was in the process of being resolved.

When the staff came to their conclusion, as announced by Ed, the restriction on discussion was lifted with the caveat that **“All such discussion is to be confined to the Pit”** and further disussion should remain relatively civil. The temp-banned poster was reinstated, and discussion continued in the new thread until, as Ed put it, the thread ran out of gas and it was locked.

There were no restrictions placed on opening new threads. Happily, everybody has the common sense not to keep scratching at everyone else’s scabs.

Until the Cafe Society thread came along, that is.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/84 "2003-07-24T14:24:28Z")

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It has been pointed out to me by email that I missed one thing in my history above. [This Pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198947), which pointed to the CS thread announcing Euty’s “hiatus” as a moderator, was locked because it threatened to get “ugly.” There wasn’t any kind of explanation that further threads would suffer the same fate, but its closing was ambiguous enough that I can understand if anyone had that concern.

Hey, 10 hours without any raw nerves being poked at. Good job, folks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/85 "2003-07-24T16:49:44Z")

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:::Pulls pin:::

:::Tosses grenade:::

:::Covers ears:::  
**BOOOOOOM!**

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**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/86 "2003-07-24T16:54:12Z")

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This is getting a little ugly for my taste. I said in an earlier thread that any further discussion of this topic in the Pit was to remain civil. You are welcome to express your opinions in a forceful manner but no insults, profanity, accusations, etc. Members violating these rules will have their posting rights revoked without further notice.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/87 "2003-07-24T17:02:33Z")

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OH FOR CRYING IN A BUCKET!

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/88 "2003-07-24T17:25:10Z")

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This includes you, Esprix.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/89 "2003-07-24T17:33:56Z")

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Well of course it does, and I’ll abide by those rules, even if (and I hope I’m only saying this civilly and forcefully) I think they’re stubborn and wrong.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/90 "2003-07-24T17:35:53Z")

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Gee, minty, since the thread has been bumped I guess I can make my admission I was wrong about the options available to thems of us what griped in the Cafe Society thread in public.

I was wrong.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/91 "2003-07-24T17:38:30Z")

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(draping my arm over Esprix’s shoulders)

Pal-O-Mine, I believe we are banging our heads against a wall. It’s Ed’s sandbox.

C’mon, I’ll buy you a drink.

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**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/92 "2003-07-24T17:39:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by hajario \*  
> \*\*Nice try. She has 15k+ posts and probably a third of them are of the drive-by insult with zero content variety. Sometimes there will be up to three or four in just one thread. Occasionally, when called on it, she’ll say that she’ll try to stop but it never seems to happen.
> 
> Haj \*\*

Here’s a stepladder…

Aw, nevermind.

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**Author:** ![JoeyHemlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7ba0ec/32.png) [@JoeyHemlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeyHemlock)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/93 "2003-07-24T18:12:01Z")

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Can’t we all just get along?

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/94 "2003-07-24T18:20:45Z")

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OK, **Ed** ’s right. Time for me to bow out for now.

Apologies offered to me are all accepted - **Cranky** , **Cartoon** , **samclem** , and of course **Scotticher**. In return, I apologize if I untowardly stepped over any lines in return.

**Books** , I appreciate you stepping off. Thank you.

**Blackeyes** , for the record, I broke no forum (or other) rules in my replies to **Books**.

And **drop** , I was a little confused at first as to why you were posting about not being able to start any more threads on the subject, so I’m glad **minty** cleared it up for you. Yes, with all the threads going around, it’s been confusing, I agree.

I have asked **Ed** if I may have permission to start a “thank you **Euty** thread” in MPSIMS as **elf6c** suggested, as despite the circumstances I think it would be a nice thing for those who wish to give kudos to **Euty** for his work as a Moderator a place to do so without having it devolve into a rehashing of the entire situation yet again.

And with that, I will bid you _adieu_ for now. (See? I can actually shut up sometimes. 😃 )

Esprix

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/95 "2003-07-24T19:19:09Z")

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Esprix, I hate to be a hag, but I don’t think is about you. Did those people apologize to you personally, or to the boards?

I don’t understand why I would have any reason to apologize to you. I have not done anything to you. I did not care for the manner in which you chose to call my attention to what so irritated you, and I told you so. I also confessed that I shared your chagrin that what was turning into a nice thread for Euty was turned into something else. I have sincere sorrow about this situation, and indeed regrets about not posting my support of Persephone elsewhere. I said I was sorry about that. But that wasn’t an apology to you. (??)

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/96 "2003-07-24T20:55:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It has been pointed out to me by email that I missed one thing in my history above. [This Pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198947), which pointed to the CS thread announcing Euty’s “hiatus” as a moderator, was locked because it threatened to get “ugly.”

That pit thread was locked at the request of the OP.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/97 "2003-07-24T21:35:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by **CrankyAsAnOldMan** _
> 
> … I don’t think is about you.

I don’t believe I said it was.

> [@](#):
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> Did those people apologize to you personally, or to the boards?

I was specifically addressing people who were specifically addressing me with their remarks.

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> I don’t understand why I would have any reason to apologize to you.

You said:

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> I’m sorry that I have not said that where it should have been said.

Since that’s what I took you to task for, I assumed that was at least in part directed towards me.

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> But that wasn’t an apology to you. (??)

Guess not. Oh well. My apology to you still stands.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/98 "2003-07-24T21:40:44Z")

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…and I’m really glad it _was_ shut down.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/99 "2003-07-24T21:40:52Z")

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I took Spanish in school but I was under the impression the adieu meant goodbye.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dantheman-youre-such-a-putz-about-euty-you-too-esprix/190283/100 "2003-07-24T21:44:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by hajario \*  
> \*\*I took Spanish in school but I was under the impression the adieu meant goodbye.
> 
> Haj \*\*

That pretty much cracked me up.

More to the point, I hope that **Euty** does come back as a poster as I’ve always valued his views. Anything else I might have to say om this subject is better left unsaid as I was part of the central issue in a way.

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