# Daredevil on Netflix viewing thread (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 10, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318 "2015-04-10T12:24:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/281 "2015-05-11T16:35:29Z")
Sorry if that was already covered, but IIRC when Matt gets his uniform, the guy who made it says something like ‘the black parts will deflect a bullet, the red parts maybe a knife’… How exactly was that useful information to Matt? I mean, of course he wouldn’t want to advertise his blindness to the seamster, but it’d definitely be kind of useful information to have what parts of your crime-fighting outfit are bulletproof… ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/282 "2015-05-11T16:46:14Z")
Presumably, those different parts have a different feel or texture to them. Or Matt just took the thing with the intention of either asking someone else (Claire, Foggy) which parts were which later, or figuring it out as he went. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/283 "2015-05-11T17:58:07Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Presumably, those different parts have a different feel or texture to them. Or Matt just took the thing with the intention of either asking someone else (Claire, Foggy) which parts were which later, or figuring it out as he went. Well, not a good thing to figure out via trial-and-error… “Chestplate… not bulletproof.” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/284 "2015-05-11T18:14:20Z")
Considering that before his “armor” consisted entirely of pants, shirt, and nylon headsock it’s still an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/285 "2015-05-11T18:15:59Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Considering that before his “armor” consisted entirely of pants, shirt, and nylon headsock it’s still an improvement. Fair point. ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Ji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Shin\_Ji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Ji)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/286 "2015-05-16T16:25:31Z")
No one else enjoyed Matt’s Wonder Womaning at the end with his metal bracelets? I thought it was great. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/287 "2015-05-18T15:09:51Z")
I’m going to have to go back and watch the first episode again, but is there a point where Daredevil gives Karen a hand up, or holds her hand, so she can recognize the feel of his hand at the end of the last episode? Similar to recognizing Peter Parker by his kissing skills in _Spiderman_ ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/288 "2015-05-18T15:24:19Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I’m going to have to go back and watch the first episode again, but is there a point where Daredevil gives Karen a hand up, or holds her hand, so she can recognize the feel of his hand at the end of the last episode? Similar to recognizing Peter Parker by his kissing skills in _Spiderman_ That’s what I was asking and wondering. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/289 "2015-05-23T02:23:36Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Ben Urich? Awesome guy. You mean the one that dies, right? Yeah, after that death, I said to my wife, “Sorry, Ben, but the show needed a good guy to die for emotional impact, and you’re the only black man on the cast, so. . . .” I mean, c’mon, I know it’s a tradition one step removed from wearing a red shirt, but did we really have to go there? _cough Agents of Shield cough_ Other than that, I really enjoyed the show. Just finished the last episode a few minutes ago, and can’t stop giggling over the costume. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/290 "2015-05-23T13:23:27Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > He’s Farsi, but he spent several years in India, too. I just want to claim him cause he’s hella cool. Who wouldn’t want him? I’m tired of our stereotype being geeky IT guys, let’s get some rock and roll up in this bitch! Side note: **Kim Thayil** , brilliant, badass guitarist of Soundgarden, is of Indian descent. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/291 "2015-06-01T01:15:24Z")
Just finished the last episode. I haven’t read the comics so I knew nothing going into this. Gotta tell ya…I LOVED IT. There was an element of realism that I don’t normally see in superhero type movies. He got tired during a fight, he actually got wounded and lost a few battles (first encounter with Fisk, almost got arrested a couple times) and the flashbacks were done perfectly. They answered every question I had along the way. Looking forward to season 2 - I hope it’s just as good. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/292 "2015-06-01T18:30:40Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The second episode has one of the best fight scenes I’ve ever seen on television. It’s worth watching just for that. Everyone keeps talking about this and I agree that it’s stellar… but the long, long 360 degree pan shot scene in the taxi in episode 4 or 5 is absolutely dazzling as well. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/293 "2015-06-01T19:58:41Z")
If you like the fight scenes in the Daredevil series, then you would also like the movie: [The Raid: Redemption](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1899353/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) (2011), set in Jakarta, Indonesia. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/294 "2015-06-10T00:43:12Z")
I’ll second The Raid: Redemption. In other news, Shane IS the Punisher. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/295 "2015-06-10T01:13:34Z")
Beautiful casting with the Punisher, and a great move to set him up opposite Murdoch. I’m hoping we’ll see a lovely set-up with Punisher as an anti-hero foil to Daredevil, and the two of them screwing each other up because they can’t work together or admit the other might have a point. Really looking forward to season 2 even more now. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/296 "2015-06-10T01:24:22Z")
Just finished the series, and I can’t say how impressed I am by the accomplishment. It’s so… adult. The dialogue is all so natural. The twists are genuinely twisted, not telegraphed. They killed some of the wrong people. Yes, it has that lightweight bone structure you can’t quite leave behind in a comic adaptation, but it’s carbon-fiber, not cardboard. I thought Karen was going to be the weak link, and she grew into the character beautifully. D’Onofrio was just deadly. Honestly, I think the weakest link in the chain is… Charlie Cox. Maybe another season will round him out a little more, but he always seemed to be just a bit understudy/stand-in. The other phantom leg is the drum pounding for Thuh City… meaning ten square blocks of NYC. Small scale is fine and a welcome change from the intergalactic crisis focus of the MCU so far, but around ep 10, I started to giggle every time they said something about This City!, knowing they meant one neighborhood. One loose end, maybe someone knows. Madame Gao… When she said she was going home and Wesley(?) responded, “Oh, to China?” she said, “My home is much further.” Is she alien? That would be a kick in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/297 "2015-06-10T01:26:27Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Sorry if that was already covered, but IIRC when Matt gets his uniform, the guy who made it says something like ‘the black parts will deflect a bullet, the red parts maybe a knife’… How exactly was that useful information to Matt? I mean, of course he wouldn’t want to advertise his blindness to the seamster, but it’d definitely be kind of useful information to have what parts of your crime-fighting outfit are bulletproof… “Foggy? Does this make me look black?” ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/298 "2015-06-10T01:33:31Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Ben Urich played some major parts in the _Daredevil_ comic book, including deducing that Daredevil was Matt Murdock and occasionally helping the hero out with research and investigations that require actually being able to see. He wasn’t/isn’t a constant character but he’s been recurring for several decades now. A lot of us long-term book fans were sorry to see him die, but the TV/movie Marvel universe and the comic book universe are alternate versions of each other, not the same thing. I’m OK with that, not everyone else is. I figured that Urich was in there due to his crucial role in the seminal Daredevil series ‘Born Again’ by Frank Miller. In it Urich is onto something big on the Kingpin and a source is murdered while on the phone with Urich (who then loses his nerve). It also allows for J. Jonah Jameson to have one of his best moments in all of his history as he reminds Urich [what it means to be a journalist](https://p.dreamwidth.org/8d2b820d52d1/img35.imageshack.us/img35/3008/jonah.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/299 "2015-06-10T02:02:53Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > One loose end, maybe someone knows. Madame Gao… > > When she said she was going home and Wesley(?) responded, “Oh, to China?” she said, “My home is much further.” Is she alien? That would be a kick in the head. Madame Gao is most likely [The Crane Mother](http://marvel.wikia.com/Crane_Mother_%28Earth-616%29), ruler of K’un-Zi, one of seven hidden mystical cities that only occasionally exist on Earth. One of the other cities is K’un-Lan, where Iron Fist learned his martial arts. ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/300 "2015-06-10T22:54:36Z")
My wife really enjoyed watching this with me (she had no knowledge of the character, but I was a huge fan of the Miller years), and in searching for another show to start binge-watching we noticed that _Arrow_ had been added to Netflix streaming. I had been hearing mostly positive things about both that and _The Flash_ so we decided to give it a shot. It’s entirely possible that we would have liked it more had we seen it when it was first airing, but watching it after having finished _Daredevil_ did it absolutely no favors. For fans of the show … does it get better? Did it take a while to find its voice or its rhythm or something? It might just be that I’m judging it too harshly for not being something that it never claimed to be trying to be in the first place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318.md?page=16)