# Daredevil on Netflix viewing thread (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 10, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318 "2015-04-10T12:24:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/41 "2015-04-12T12:39:09Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > I Who are they casting as Spider-Man? IMDB is silent on the matter. Not yet announced. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/42 "2015-04-12T13:54:51Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > What, you were thinking the White Tiger maybe? 😃 Hadn’t thought of that but it makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/43 "2015-04-12T13:56:23Z")
Oooooo who saw the big bald tailor named Potter? Gladiator right? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/44 "2015-04-12T14:11:54Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > Oooooo who saw the big bald tailor named Potter? Gladiator right? Yep. Even had the plans for the wrist-saw-blade weapon on the table where he set down the case with the red suit. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/45 "2015-04-12T16:27:24Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > So far, this Daredevil doesn’t seem to be pill popping like the Ben Aflec Daredevil, but I don’t see why. He takes some major ass whipping even when he wins. Of course, Spider-man generally does in the comics, but he has super endurance. Murdock just works out. > [@RikWriter](#): > > I thought the beatings Matt took and was active after were unrealistic, but in the end it’s still a comic book movie. Also, I guess he has some ancient ninja magic meditation tricks. > I really am looking forward to the other Marvel Netflix series. Err… am I the only one who thought they made it pretty damn clear that he IS super powered? When a guy gets hit by radiation juice in a comic book story super powers are pretty much a given, specially when they show him smelling a guys cologne from three floors away and standing on a roof and hearing the whole city. He might not have Cap levels toughness and strength but he was quite obviously not some blind guy who worked out. That’s why i don’t buy the Arrow/Batman comparisons, he is more than training and toys. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/46 "2015-04-12T17:06:19Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Err… am I the only one who thought they made it pretty damn clear that he IS super powered? When a guy gets hit by radiation juice in a comic book story super powers are pretty much a given, specially when they show him smelling a guys cologne from three floors away and standing on a roof and hearing the whole city. He might not have Cap levels toughness and strength but he was quite obviously not some blind guy who worked out. That’s why i don’t buy the Arrow/Batman comparisons, he is more than training and toys. He has superhuman senses, though he is technically blind. They never assert that he has superhuman strength or endurance, and he certainly does not in the comics. From [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil_%28Marvel_Comics%29): > [@](#): > > Though he has no superhuman physical attributes beyond an enhanced sense of balance, Daredevil is a master of martial arts.[92] Having been trained by Stick, Daredevil is a master hand-to-hand combatant. His typical moves are unique blends of the martial arts of ninjutsu, aiki jujutsu, jujitsu, kung fu, capoeira, judo, aikido, wrestling, and stick fighting combined with American-style boxing while making full use of his gymnastics capabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/47 "2015-04-12T20:20:07Z")
Just finished episode 4 and I am getting increasingly annoyed with how **dark** the show is! Not tonally, but that half the time _I can barely even see what’s going on!_ Like when Fisk fights the Russian outside the car and he gets stabbed? Or sliced? Or was he not injured and it just cut his suit? Or was he wearing protective gear underneath? I don’t know, all I saw on the screen was black. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/48 "2015-04-12T21:09:42Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Err… am I the only one who thought they made it pretty damn clear that he IS super powered? When a guy gets hit by radiation juice in a comic book story super powers are pretty much a given, specially when they show him smelling a guys cologne from three floors away and standing on a roof and hearing the whole city. Except, as Stick explains in the comics, “that shit wore off. You got a free ride.” Stick and his crew have the same senses thanks to training. Matt’s went haywire after his exposure but really he’s still got hypersenses because he _thinks_ he’s still got hypersenses. No superpowers. > [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Like when Fisk fights the Russian outside the car and he gets stabbed? Or sliced? Or was he not injured and it just cut his suit? Or was he wearing protective gear underneath? I don’t know, all I saw on the screen was black. They show a brief shot of what looks like Kevlar with a steel mesh weave under the material after the cut. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/49 "2015-04-12T21:12:54Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > Except, as Stick explains in the comics, “that shit wore off. You got a free ride.” Stick and his crew have the same senses thanks to training. Matt’s went haywire after his exposure but really he’s still got hypersenses because he _thinks_ he’s still got hypersenses. No superpowers. We are not talking about the comic books here, a guy who can smell a guys cologne from three floors away and hear crimes being committed far away while standing on a roof has super powers. Whether being able to get into a brawl with three broken ribs, a stab wound and a concussion and win is super power or Murdock toughness might be up in the air but the rest isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/50 "2015-04-12T22:29:12Z")
Excellent show! Fight scenes were epic and the story was good. Also, [Foggy looks a lot like the singer for FallOut Boy.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6MOKXm8x50) ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/51 "2015-04-12T22:49:41Z")
Can I just take a moment to say that Marvel has knocked it out of the park with respect to casting in their movie and TV properties? I was just amazed at how good a job they did with casting this show. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/52 "2015-04-12T23:13:43Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > We are not talking about the comic books here, a guy who can smell a guys cologne from three floors away and hear crimes being committed far away while standing on a roof has super powers. Whether being able to get into a brawl with three broken ribs, a stab wound and a concussion and win is super power or Murdock toughness might be up in the air but the rest isn’t. Daredevil’s hyper-senses are his ONLY superpower. (Nearly) Everyone in comic book universes has resiliency and quickened healing. > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Mahaloth** > Yes, it takes place after the Avengers movie. In the pilot, they say the following: > > Matt: “‘The Incident,’ is that what we’re calling it now?” > > Agent: “Well, it sounds so much better than ‘death and destruction raining from the sky nearly wiping Hell’s Kitchen off the map.’” > > Matt: “Shorter too.” I read a blurb somewhere that Daredevil is supposed to take place after Age of Ultron. Don’t know how true it is. As for Spider-man, I think that Civil War is only a one-off, not him being back in the MCU. I could be wrong, though. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/53 "2015-04-12T23:23:56Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > As for Spider-man, I think that Civil War is only a one-off, not him being back in the MCU. I could be wrong, though. He’s still with Sony, but they’ve worked out a compromise with Marvel about his use in the MCU. In return, Marvel helps Sony get its shit together on the character. Or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/54 "2015-04-12T23:48:56Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > As for Spider-man, I think that Civil War is only a one-off, not him being back in the MCU. I could be wrong, though. You are wrong. Marvel Studios is pretty much making the next Spider-Man movie, although most of the money will go to Sony. Basically, Marvel is taking creative control of Spider-Man and he will appear in more MCU movies, probably including Infinity Wars. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/55 "2015-04-12T23:58:39Z")
We shit a lot on Sony but the spiderman films have been more succesful than any but the top two or three MCU films. They handily beat the Captain America, Thor and Hulk franchises. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/56 "2015-04-13T01:51:41Z")
Here’s what [Variety](http://variety.com/2015/film/news/details-spider-man-appear-in-sony-and-marvel-movies-1201429039/) says: > [@](#): > > Marvel Studios won’t pay Sony Pictures for the rights to put Spider-Man in “Captain America: Civil War,” the “Avengers” franchise or its other superhero films, as part of its new partnership with the studio, according to sources with knowledge of the deal. At the same time, Marvel won’t receive a cut of the box office for any of Sony’s films that feature Spider-Man. Sony won’t receive a percentage of the revenue Disney makes from Marvel’s films that have Spider-Man, either. > > There may be some opportunities for Marvel to benefit financially from the Sony films, with payments tied to certain box office milestones. The financial relationship is likened by sources to the kind of compensation structure a producer would receive. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/57 "2015-04-13T03:11:39Z")
Man I watched all the episodes DAREDEVIL and didn’t see Spider-man once! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/58 "2015-04-13T03:23:03Z")
> [@Flander](#): > > Man I watched all the episodes DAREDEVIL and didn’t see Spider-man once! That’s the bunk, man. In the comic they had cross-overs all the time. In Secret Wars, they were hanging out together looking at the Avengers and X-Men going, “Damn, we are way outclassed over here.” They don’t show where Daredevil is thinking, “Bitch, you can pick up full tanker trucks and hunk them at people, don’t even pretend to be down with me just cause you got an apartment in Hell’s Kitchen.” ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/59 "2015-04-13T10:49:44Z")
I don’t see the MCU Daredevil and Spider-Man hanging out much. This particular incarnation of ol’ horn-head doesn’t swing from buildings… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318/60 "2015-04-13T11:05:26Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > I am getting increasingly annoyed with how **dark** the show is! Not tonally, but that half the time _I can barely even see what’s going on!_ “Welcome to my world.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/daredevil-on-netflix-viewing-thread-open-spoilers/717318.md?page=4)