# Dark Knight Rises villains(and actors) announced **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232 "2011-01-19T19:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/1 "2011-01-19T19:08:08Z")
It’s Bane and Catwoman. [Played by Tom Hardy and Anne Hathaway, respectively.](http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/19/batman-hathaway-catwoman-hardy-bane-dark-knight-rises/) Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/2 "2011-01-19T19:10:00Z")
where’s Mr. Freeze ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/3 "2011-01-19T19:14:26Z")
(You’re link is broken…it links to creating a new thread.) As much as I am in love with Anne Hathaway, I don’t think she’ll make a good Catwoman, nor do I think Catwoman is a good choice for a villain. There is still a sour taste in all of our mouths from that God-awful Halle Berry movie…and even the Michelle Pheifer Catwoman wasn’t that good, IMO. I am excited about Bane, though, _if_ they do him right. I can’t imagine there is any way they will actually have him break Batman’s back, though I do predict the first fight between him and Bats will put Bats in the hospital. I was really hoping for Victor Zsasz, though. But I can see Nolan wanting to avoid him, for fears of people saying they just went with him as a way to “up the ante” from The Joker. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/4 "2011-01-19T19:14:32Z")
I just don’t see Anne Hathaway as catwoman. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/5 "2011-01-19T19:15:20Z")
Your link is broken - it tries to create a new thread. And Anne Hathaway in the Catwoman suit? I need to sit down for a moment. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/6 "2011-01-19T19:18:07Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > There is still a sour taste in all of our mouths from that God-awful Halle Berry movie…and even the Michelle Pheifer Catwoman wasn’t that good, IMO. Most of us didn’t see the HB version, and I have to strongly disagree about Pfeiffer–_Batman Returns_ is, IMHO, the best of the pre-reboot films, and her Catwoman is a big reason why. I don’t envy Hathaway having to live up to what MP pulled off–quite possibly, the best acting of anyone in the first four films. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/7 "2011-01-19T19:27:05Z")
Story [here](http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/19/batman-hathaway-catwoman-hardy-bane-dark-knight-rises/). The WB press release names Bane and _Selina Kyle_, but not Catwoman specifically, perhaps intentionally? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/8 "2011-01-19T19:28:12Z")
Find -\> Replace Michelle Pheifer -\> Jack Nicholson Anne Hathaway -\> Heath Ledger Batman Returns -\> Batman The Dark Knight Rises -\> The Dark Knight Let’s just wait and see, shall we? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/9 "2011-01-19T19:33:39Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > (You’re link is broken…it links to creating a new thread.) > [@muldoonthief](#): > > Your link is broken - it tries to create a new thread. I fixed the link using the one **DCnDC** posted. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/10 "2011-01-19T19:43:22Z")
If they go with a more Ed Brubaker/Darwyn Cooke Catwoman, this will be great. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/11 "2011-01-19T19:48:09Z")
I wanted Egghead, dammit! Seriously, seeing that she’s a major player in the Batman world I understand why they would choose Selina Kyle/Catwoman, but I feel that one person running around in an animal getup is just enough. Having another person running around with costume-y “ears” on is pushing into the camp territory of the 60s TV series. It will be interesting to see how they implement it, if they do go full Catwoman. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/12 "2011-01-19T19:53:21Z")
I love Anne Hathaway, but I would’ve looked for an Olivia Wilde / junior Angelina Jolie type. Anne is beautiful and sexy but doesn’t have that sex-forward, danger vibe that Catwoman has in my mind… ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/13 "2011-01-19T19:58:43Z")
A 10 years older Mila Kunis would make a great Catwoman. Hathaway? Not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/14 "2011-01-19T20:02:34Z")
All the criticism above sounds exactly like what people were saying about Heath Ledger before the last movie. I predict she’ll be amazing - Nolan’s casting is always dead-on. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/15 "2011-01-19T20:14:24Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > All the criticism above sounds exactly like what people were saying about Heath Ledger before the last movie. I predict she’ll be amazing - Nolan’s casting is always dead-on. Can’t argue the point. She is paid to be an actress and I do think she is hugely talented. Again, just not sure she can radiate that animal sexiness I equate with the role, but I would love to be proven wrong. Anne Hathaway + animal sexiness = Good. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/16 "2011-01-19T20:17:35Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Can’t argue the point. She is paid to be an actress and I do think she is hugely talented. Again, just not sure she can radiate that animal sexiness I equate with the role, but I would love to be proven wrong. Someone needs to rent “Havoc”. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/17 "2011-01-19T20:19:40Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Someone needs to rent “Havoc”. Really? Cool - will do. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/18 "2011-01-19T20:25:25Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Really? Cool - will do. Too late to add: hmm, it gets low ratings on IMDB and Netflix. But there is a half-naked Hathaway to consider… ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/19 "2011-01-19T20:29:28Z")
Damn, last I heard in the rumour mill was Anne Hathaway and Eva Green considered for Catwoman and Talia Al’Ghul. I really wanted Talia, because we don’t need _another_ Catwoman portrayal. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/20 "2011-01-19T21:05:52Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Too late to add: hmm, it gets low ratings on IMDB and Netflix. But there is a half-naked Hathaway to consider… Trust me, not worth it. It’s not at all like Katie Holmes in The Gift; you don’t really get a good look. Meantime you have to sit through a terrible movie with a ludicrous plot, dinner-theater-caliber acting, and chock full of galactically stupid, insufferable characters. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232.md?page=2)