# Dark Knight Rises villains(and actors) announced **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232 "2011-01-19T19:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/21 "2011-01-19T21:08:55Z")
Maybe it’s just a function of the specific movies I’ve seen/heard of her in, but my mental image of Anne Hathaway is much more clean and Disney-friendly. Which is not to say, of course, that that image couldn’t change. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/22 "2011-01-19T21:14:02Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > I was really hoping for Victor Zsasz, though. But I can see Nolan wanting to avoid him, for fears of people saying they just went with him as a way to “up the ante” from The Joker. He was already in the first film. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/23 "2011-01-19T21:58:42Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Trust me, not worth it. It’s not at all like Katie Holmes in The Gift; you don’t really get a good look. I’m given to understand that some kind soul has captured the important Anne Hathaway scene for us all so that one can see the relevant portion without having to sit through the rest of the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/24 "2011-01-19T22:23:39Z")
You mean, like here? [http://anarchology.org/index.php?topic=2683.0](http://anarchology.org/index.php?topic=2683.0) (NSFW, obviously). ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/25 "2011-01-19T22:26:57Z")
Hmmm… with Anne Hathaway’s mouth and her penchant for bold lipstick, I think she’d make a better Joker… ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/26 "2011-01-19T22:34:32Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > He was already in the first film. Really? Where? It couldn’t have been more than a passing mention. Ahh, I see wikipedia has this to say: > [@](#): > > Zsasz appears briefly in the 2005 film Batman Begins portrayed by Tim Booth (the vocalist of British band James).[7] In the movie, Assistant District Attorney Rachel Dawes states that Zsasz butchers citizens for the mob and is one of Carmine Falcone’s thugs. He is sent to Arkham Asylum, but escapes during Ra’s al Ghul’s attack on Gotham, and nearly attacks Rachel. Zsasz is revealed to have remained at large in one of the promotional websites for The Dark Knight. So he wasn’t really in the film in any major way, and was in a way already introduced, so I still think it would have been cool to use him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/27 "2011-01-20T01:15:08Z")
Her scene from _Brokeback Mountain_ is amusing. That film will have featured two Batman villains, and Jake Gyllenhaal having sex with each. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/28 "2011-01-20T01:49:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Maybe it’s just a function of the specific movies I’ve seen/heard of her in, but my mental image of Anne Hathaway is much more clean and Disney-friendly. Which is not to say, of course, that that image couldn’t change. Watch “Rachel Getting Married.” It’ll destroy that image. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/29 "2011-01-20T02:12:37Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Trust me, not worth it. It’s not at all like Katie Holmes in The Gift; you don’t really get a good look. Meantime you have to sit through a terrible movie with a ludicrous plot, dinner-theater-caliber acting, and chock full of galactically stupid, insufferable characters. Are you mad, man? In the The Gift, we get a brief scene with Holmes topless. A wonderful sight to behold to be certain. In Havoc, there are multiple scenes of the stunning Ms. Hathaway topless, making out with a chick, masturbating and other choice bits. Just topless, but MAN she’s great. Also talented, which is a big plus. Far more than Katie Holmes, imo. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/30 "2011-01-20T02:13:45Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Damn, last I heard in the rumour mill was Anne Hathaway and Eva Green considered for Catwoman and Talia Al’Ghul. I really wanted Talia, because we don’t need _another_ Catwoman portrayal. I was hoping to see Talia as well, along with The Riddler and/or Poison Ivy. (Could you imagine Christina Hendricks as Poison Ivy? Holy crap.) Maybe there’s still hope for one of the two female villains. I do remember reading an article that said they were casting two new female roles. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/31 "2011-01-20T03:09:31Z")
Hathaway was pretty good in an “action” role as Agent 99 in the _Get Smart_ movie, so I can see her pulling off Catwoman. I’m glad to hear that Bane will be in this movie–hopefully they’ll do him right. This will give me an excuse to read all of my Knightfall comic books again. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/32 "2011-01-20T03:13:56Z")
Tom Hardy was IMO the best thing about **ST: Nemesis** and **Inception** , so I have high hopes. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/33 "2011-01-20T03:24:13Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Story [here](http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/19/batman-hathaway-catwoman-hardy-bane-dark-knight-rises/). > > The WB press release names Bane and _Selina Kyle_, but not Catwoman specifically, perhaps intentionally? Perhaps Hollywood has finally seen the wisdom in Robot Arm’s First Law of Superhero Movie Casting. Anybody can put on the suit; choose actors who can convincingly play the secret identity. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/34 "2011-01-20T03:31:56Z")
Tom Hardy as Bane? Well, on the one hand, this suggests they’ll be doing his personality correctly, instead of dumb muscle like Batman & Robin (or numerous other appearances in various media)…it sounds like they might be swinging too much in the opposite direction. Sure he’s filled out since Nemesis, but not nearly to Bane-appropriate proportions. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/35 "2011-01-20T03:33:03Z")
I’ve never much cared for Catwoman, but Ann Hathaway is stupidly attractive and can act. I’ll trust Christopher Nolan. As for Bane? I was hoping it would be him and I love Tom Hardy. Still boils down to a script, as it always does. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/36 "2011-01-20T04:26:56Z")
Sounds like some folks here didn’t go see _[Love and Other Drugs](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0758752/)_ in the theater. Lots of top quality Anne Hathaway nudity and crazy-sexy in that film. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/37 "2011-01-20T12:19:51Z")
Weird, both villains are not planner types. Nolan’s Batman requires a schemer type villain. Black Mask or Riddler would have been much more interesting. Nolan already goofed it up on his non planner villain in Dark Knight, Two-Face kind of sucked (Dent was good but Two-Face wasnt). Hope they use Bane as he was used in “The Batman” cartoon, apart from that treatment, Bane tends to look and feel like a bear-BDSM-hard-gay-sex-muscle man. Are we sure Anne Hattaway plays Catwoman and not another female villain like Poison Ivy (or even Barbara Gordon)? Hope it’s Dark Knight good and not Batman Begins bad. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/38 "2011-01-20T12:59:04Z")
> [@drm](#): > > I’ve never much cared for Catwoman, but Ann Hathaway is stupidly attractive and can act. I’ll trust Christopher Nolan. This. If anyone can make Catwoman look good it’s Nolan, and with Hathaway he’s got a great muse. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/39 "2011-01-20T13:17:40Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Weird, both villains are not planner types. Nolan’s Batman requires a schemer type villain. Black Mask or Riddler would have been much more interesting. > Nolan already goofed it up on his non planner villain in Dark Knight, Two-Face kind of sucked (Dent was good but Two-Face wasnt). > Hope they use Bane as he was used in “The Batman” cartoon, apart from that treatment, Bane tends to look and feel like a bear-BDSM-hard-gay-sex-muscle man. Hmm… I’m not familiar with the comics, but Bane’s first arc seems kind of schemey from the [wikipedia summary](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)#.22The_Man_who_Broke_the_Bat.22) - he’s a strong schemer, but a schemer. I wonder if we could actually include in the movie the scene where he lets the inmates of Arkham go; that could be really cool. Of course, they probably wouldn’t be able to work the ‘big name crazies’ in, but it could work nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/40 "2011-01-20T13:43:53Z")
> [@chrisk](#): > > I wonder if we could actually include in the movie the scene where he lets the inmates of Arkham go; that could be really cool. Of course, they probably wouldn’t be able to work the ‘big name crazies’ in, but it could work nonetheless. Aren’t they all still running loose in the Narrows? That never really got resolved from Batman Begins, did it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232.md?page=3)