# Dark Knight Rises villains(and actors) announced **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232 "2011-01-19T19:08:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/61 "2011-03-30T19:19:43Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > Michelle Pfeiffer - Epic Fail. While she has the smouldering look Catwoman needs , and wears the hell out of some leather, her acting chops were more like pork chops. > > Halle Berry - Epic fail. Gorgeous woman. She can play a bitch, but not a sexy bitch. > > My vote, and unfortunately, she is overexposed: > > **Angelina Jolie.** > > Runner Up: > > **Julie Benz** Gotta disagree–Pfeiffer gave maybe the best performance by anyone in the first four Batman films. Jolie & Benz? Yeesh–they can only wish they could deliver half of what MP did in _Batman Returns_. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/62 "2011-03-30T21:10:10Z")
> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#): > > It looks like it’s going to still be about the mob. I don’t really want to elaborate or name names, but if you’re familiar with The Long Halloween and Dark Victory, you know where it seems to be going. Wasnt Falcone already in Batman Begins (that movie left almost no traces in my mind, cant remember it well). Wasnt the mob boss in BB Falcone, I mean? He was a truly shitty character in the movie. And Eric Roberts while rather good wasnt anything near the Maroni of the comics. Too bad, one of the achievements of Loeb and Sale is to have made the criminals at least as interesting as the Freaks. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/63 "2011-03-30T23:34:12Z")
Falcone had a lot of offspring, one of which might be surprising if they go that direction. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/64 "2011-03-30T23:47:48Z")
I remember how a lot of people said Heath Ledger was hopelessly miscast as the Joker, and the movie was going to suck on account of him. I’m going to wait and see before I pass judgement on Anne Hathaway’s Catwoman. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/65 "2011-03-31T00:41:34Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > I agree with everyone else. Anne Hathaway as Catwoman=epic fail. 😕 I see a lot of pro-Anne Hathaway comments. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/66 "2011-03-31T20:11:35Z")
You know, I’m not at all sure that Catwoman will be in the movie, per se. They announced that Hathaway will be playing Selina Kyle, but she may not really don the Catwoman suit at all. Most of the villains in the Nolan movies are not really costumed as such. Ra’s Al Ghul wore a suit. Joker had his makeup. Two face wore street clothes. Zzsazs wore street clothes in his brief appearance. Scarecrow did have the mask, but not all the time, just for a specific purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232/67 "2011-03-31T20:22:22Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > You know, I’m not at all sure that Catwoman will be in the movie, per se. They announced that Hathaway will be playing Selina Kyle, but she may not really don the Catwoman suit at all. > . She talked to Oprah about this. She said that she got the call to host the Oscars out of nowhere. She was waiting to hear if she was going to be Catwoman when they called, and she specifically said Catwoman. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-knight-rises-villains-and-actors-announced/568232.md?page=3)