# Dark side of Finland

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140 "2013-10-13T15:21:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/21 "2013-10-13T19:16:37Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well, there was Nokia, but they don’t even have that anymore!

Another company that completely pwned its market and flubbed it.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/22 "2013-10-13T19:51:49Z")

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I don’t get all the Finland-hate.

Iceland, now…that’s another story. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/23 "2013-10-13T20:12:35Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I don’t get all the Finland-hate.

It’s Rennie Harlan’s fault. One more snatch of “Finlandia” in a movie and I might have to get ugly on his case.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/24 "2013-10-13T20:42:55Z")

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I predict that Finland will only get darker until–wait, my spirit guide, Marlon Brando, is mumbling again–until December 21, after which it will begin to slowly brighten.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/25 "2013-10-13T21:37:41Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> At least you’ve realized that they _are_ watching us _all the time_. Be very careful what you say. They may be outside your door this very moment!!

:Flicks John Mace in the head with a finger:

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/26 "2013-10-13T21:51:40Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> :Flicks John Mace in the head with a finger:

:screams at foolsguinea like a Banshee:

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/27 "2013-10-13T22:24:17Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Does Finland even has a light side ? I only knew about its dark & violently drunk, morbidly depressed sides.

Their national pastimes are alcoholism, motor racing, and insane metal music. What could possibly go wrong there?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/28 "2013-10-13T22:38:31Z")

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One more country tarnished by the actions of a single fuckwit.

Will the litany of losers never cease?

(Obviously I’m posting, so the answer has to be “No.”)

But really, OP? Who fucking cares about Finland or whatever your fucking “cause” is?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/29 "2013-10-13T22:41:26Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Even after reading the whole OP I have almost no context for the timeline or claims except that it vaguely has something to do with Finland and Australia. Really, OP, it’s helpful to tell readers in a new venue what th’ell your campaign is all about instead of posting a summary that might evoke interest from someone already familiar with the issue. No, assuming everyone is going to go read a web link of any kind to get filled in is not reasonable.

Yeah, we need more information.  
To Sweden the deal.

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/30 "2013-10-13T22:44:08Z")

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There’s Norway we can allow you to get away with that unscatched.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/31 "2013-10-13T22:47:20Z")

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I was going to offer to pay people to stop making puns in this thread, but I don’t think I can afjord it.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/32 "2013-10-13T22:49:52Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Does Finland even has a light side ?

Well, they’re known for great Lapp dances.

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/33 "2013-10-13T22:52:59Z")

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International child custody laws are a nightmare, we see children taken away all the time and it sucks to be separated from your child.

As an Aussie and a Finn this has nothing to do with those countries, it is all about the breakdown in your relationship and the alleged mental health of your wife. I would also question why you would let a woman who was abusing your children take them overseas to her home country. Also why did you not report this alleged abuse?

You can take this through the legal system but it will take time, it is criminal that it does but alas this is what happens when we have in effect 3 legal systems at work here.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/34 "2013-10-13T22:58:51Z")

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> [@sisu](#):
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> You can take this through the legal system but it will take time, it is criminal that it does but alas this is what happens when we have in effect 3 legal systems at work here.

What’s the third one?

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/35 "2013-10-13T23:04:41Z")

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> [@sisu](#):
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> International child custody laws are a nightmare, we see children taken away all the time and it sucks to be separated from your child.

And what would someone named ‘sisu’ know about Finnish law and custom?

😃 😃 😃

Really, all this is about, shorn of international drama and window dressing, is that the poor guy married and knocked up a psycho. Like that’s never happened to anyone else.

Raises hand.

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/36 "2013-10-13T23:06:12Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> What’s the third one?

Australian, Finnish and European.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/37 "2013-10-13T23:06:41Z")

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> [@sisu](#):
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> Australian, Finnish and European.

:smack: Right.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/38 "2013-10-13T23:13:13Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I’m pretty sure I can get you banned for that.

Puns are a bannable offense, now? Run for the hills!

> [@Miller](#):
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> I was going to offer to pay people to stop making puns in this thread, but I don’t think I can afjord it.

Please, Sir, if making puns is a bannable offense, ban yourself.

But I’m sure you prefer to rise above it. Up above it. Way up. So, Mr. Miller, up yours.

😃

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/39 "2013-10-13T23:18:21Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> Puns are a bannable offense, now? Run for the hills!

The hill? Why? Are we going viking?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-side-of-finland/671140/40 "2013-10-13T23:22:35Z")

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I’d be a lot more careful than the OP before I slander someone.

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