# Dark Tower speculation (potential spoilers)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [June 23, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879 "2003-06-23T21:57:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879/21 "2003-06-25T06:29:03Z")
It’s been a long time since I’ve read these books but I have a question. I read “Insomnia” and there was a kid in that who was somehow connected to the Dark Tower and Roland. Has it been explained who this kid is?
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### Author:  [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879/22 "2003-06-25T17:43:07Z")
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> I read “Insomnia” and there was a kid in that who was somehow connected to the Dark Tower and Roland. Has it been explained who this kid is?
There are many (most, in fact) Stephen King books with direct or indirect connections to the Dark Tower series-- _Insomnia_ is a big one, and so are _The Talisman_ and _Black House_. So far, the main characters from the Dark Tower books have not come into direct contact with any other characters, and the connections remain a mystery. A lot of me really wants only a few more hints, but not to have the mystery explained. It’s more interesting to speculate.
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879/23 "2003-06-25T17:56:17Z")
Well, the first chapter of _The Wolves of Calla_ is on King’s website, if anyone wants to take a gander. There is a familiar face to readers of King’s other books:
Fr. Callahan from _'Salem’s Lot_.
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### Author:  [@ElJeffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElJeffe)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879/24 "2003-06-25T17:57:55Z")
Has anyone considered that perhaps Susan didn’t really die, as Roland saw in that pink gem-thingy? I seem to recall someone mentioning that the gem can lie in order to get what it wants, or some such, and it seemed plausible, at the time, that the gem could have told Roland she died in order to get him to abandon her, for whatever reason. Of course, since it’s been centuries since the events of W&G, she’d have died of old age anyway, unless she was somehow kept alive by magic (or Roland could travel back in time, via some magical doorway, or such), but I’ve flirted with the idea, on occasion, that Susan and Roland may meet again. Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking.
Jeff
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### Author:  [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879/25 "2003-06-26T00:42:43Z")
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> \*Originally posted by RawkStah \*
> \*\*Oddly enough, I actually hadn’t thought about this issue. Of course, I’m the kind of person who doesn’t try to predict movie outcomes, either. I’d rather be immersed and surprised.
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> That being said, I dig the notion of Eddie and Jake being the Last Men Standing. However, I think Roland will actually be the last one there. And wracked with guilt. Susan, Susannah, Jake (twice), Eddie, Alain, Cuthbert, Jamie… Remember in the Palaver – “Death. But not for you, Gunslinger.”
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> Another interesting possibility – Roland and Oy. Roland at the Tower because he has to be, and Oy at the Tower looking for vengance… \*\*
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### Author:  [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dark-tower-speculation-potential-spoilers/183879/26 "2003-06-26T01:50:20Z")
that makes sense to me
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