# Darn it, Maxis! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885 "2004-11-04T01:22:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/21 "2004-11-07T03:17:57Z")
Another weird thing about “illegitimate” kids is that the biological father will sometimes show up uninvited, presumably to see the child. I had one of my lesbian Sims sleep with Darren Dreamer to have a baby and he’s at their house every other day. I just ignore the sperm donator. There was no degradation in the relationship between the two girls, though, even though the other one must have known her wife was sleeping around. Count me in with the people who are becoming increasingly bored with the game. I only play it about three hours a week now, if that. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/22 "2004-11-07T08:21:29Z")
I just dusted off my old copy of _Sim City 2000_ last week (because the popping sound Windows XP SP2 makes when it warns your that your firewall is turned off reminded me of the popping sound _Sim City 2000_ makes when you zone an area). Is that close enough? The City of Traceropolis is almost big enough to support Arcologies and everything! ---
**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/23 "2004-11-07T23:25:35Z")
> [@continuity eror](#): > > Another weird thing about “illegitimate” kids is that the biological father will sometimes show up uninvited, presumably to see the child. Yeah, that’s strange. They just wander on in without an invite! Talk about having no sense of shame. 🙂 _‘Oh, hey Fred. Yeah, just here to visit my, er ‘your’, daughter. Okay, mate?’._ _‘Sure, Jim. Just make yourself at home.’_ ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/24 "2004-11-08T06:41:39Z")
> [@avabeth](#): > > Holy crap, this game is addicting. I was addicted to the first one in the “My Sims are all dying because I can’t afford a toilet!” That is the strangest thing I’ve ever heard anyone say. Or type. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/25 "2004-11-08T17:21:36Z")
> [@Khiadra](#): > > Yeah, that’s strange. They just wander on in without an invite! Talk about having no sense of shame. 🙂 > > _‘Oh, hey Fred. Yeah, just here to visit my, er ‘your’, daughter. Okay, mate?’._ > _‘Sure, Jim. Just make yourself at home.’_ Ha! That gives me an idea for a new family! The Gribble family from King of the Hill. Nancy, Dale, Joseph, and of course, John Redcorn. 😃 In my last game, I made the Hills after the Unleashed Expansion, so I could include Lady Bird. ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/26 "2004-11-11T02:48:51Z")
I bought TS2 but have yet to play it because I haven’t had my new graphics card installed yet. Maybe tomorrow! Despite my eagerness to play, I’m starting to worry. I barely got off the ground in The Sims due to my frustration over the afore-mentioned bathroom accidents and general high-maintenance issues (eating, cleaning, etc.). Is The Sims 2 as complicated as the stuff I’ve read in these links seem to suggest? Will I, a 43 year old novice, be totally thrown? I hope not. I yearn to live by proxy, as the real thing isn’t quite making the grade these days. ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/27 "2004-11-11T03:27:41Z")
I can’t buy the Sims 2 yet. If I buy it, I’ll play it. If I play it, I won’t study. Or sleep. And I can’t let my grades drop. But I want to play!! I’m trying to wait till Christmas, so I can waste huge amounts of time on the game with little consequences. But hearing people talk about it makes me want it now now now! ---
**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/28 "2004-11-11T15:09:01Z")
**Tenar** , it’s not so bad. 😉 They really are more self-sufficient. I think it’s a lot more fun that the original Sims. Since you will be just starting, Maxis may have issued a patch by the time you run into bugs. I’ve registered for the **Mod The Sims** that **Khiadra** pointed us to earlier (it’s free, but nicely asks for donations on the main page) but I’ve been too busy to download any fixes, much less play the game. I may try it today. Hubby has an all weekend pool thingy, so I’ll have plenty of time to play. :rolleyes: 😃 **Khiadra** , didn’t you try them? Any problems? ---
**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/29 "2004-11-12T13:22:08Z")
Heya, \*\*harmless \*\* (you were the last poster again in my daily update! hehe.) Yep, I downloaded the patches for oh, heaps of things! I’ve not had any problems whatsoever yet, either 🙂 The ‘jump out’ bug fixer is great. I’m so glad I got that one. ---
**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2004, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/30 "2004-11-12T16:01:37Z")
Ooooh! That’s great news! I’m stoked! 🙂 I have nothing better to do at work today so I’m getting all the goodies! Hubby has a pool thingy this weekend so I plan to vegetate on Sims 2. I haven’t played all daggum week! ☹ Mostly, I wasn’t too enthused about it due to the bug being such a pain. ---
**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/31 "2004-11-13T00:24:06Z")
**Khiadra** , I’m a dumbass. I can’t find the bug fixing patch. ☹ Any chance you could point me to it? ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/32 "2004-11-13T00:39:49Z")
Grr, I’m so mad! I tried to get a romantic relationship going between my Sim’s son and her wife, because I wanted to see the fight that would erupt and come up with a weird-looking family tree. Would she be more mad at her son or more mad at her wife? However, the game wouldn’t allow this crime against nature to happen, since it considers the son a family member of the wife, even though she’s not biologically related to him, and there was no family icon next to his picture in the relationship chart. Damn, I was so looking forward to Sim inbreeding. Just thought I’d let everyone know that a Sim’s kid won’t sleep with its parent’s spouse, even if the spouse isn’t a biological parent. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/33 "2004-11-13T01:23:36Z")
> [@continuity eror](#): > > I tried to get a romantic relationship going between my Sim’s son and her wife, “Her wife”? So, SimNation allows same-sex marriages? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/34 "2004-11-13T03:50:42Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > “Her wife”? > > So, SimNation allows same-sex marriages? Yup. Well, ‘joinings’, anyway. All Sims seem to be bisexual, your sim has equal chance of a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex as they have with a person of the opposite sex. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/35 "2004-11-13T05:05:43Z")
> [@Mr. Kobayashi](#): > > Yup. Well, ‘joinings’, anyway. All Sims seem to be bisexual, your sim has equal chance of a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex as they have with a person of the opposite sex. Right. Opposite-sex Sims can be “married,” while same-sex Sims only get a “joined union.” Grrrrr… ---
**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/36 "2004-11-13T17:16:52Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > Right. Opposite-sex Sims can be “married,” while same-sex Sims only get a “joined union.” Grrrrr… Don’t worry…I’m sure someone will come along and hack that option soon. 😛 (not that it should _have_ to be hacked. :rolleyes: ) Next sim I make is going to be a GWB sim, as gay as the day is long. Only I wouldn’t want to do that to the other sims. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/37 "2004-11-13T17:29:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Hell, over on the Maxis website, people are hunting for new and ingenious ways to kill off Sims. I have one who wants to see a ghost, so I think I’ll be trying to kill off Brandi pretty soon. True story: I’m watching a video-game review show on TV, and they’re reviewing Sims 2. My wife comes in to watch, because she’s a Sims fan. The reviewer says something to the effect of “Of course, for some of us the big draw of the Sims was the horrible things we could do to our little creations. We locked them in rooms without doors, forced them to pee themselves, starved them, drowned them, and set them on fire.” Says my wife, in a tone of amazed wonder: “You can _drown_ them?” She promptly went to the computer and about an hour later, she successfully reported her first Sim-death-by-drowning. Had to complete the set, I guess 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![harmless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/38 "2004-11-13T19:09:16Z")
N’mind, **Khiadra**. I found it. Right in the middle of the front page. Silly of me to look for it on the downloads page. :rolleyes: 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/39 "2004-11-14T00:35:45Z")
> [@continuity eror](#): > > Just thought I’d let everyone know that a Sim’s kid won’t sleep with its parent’s spouse, even if the spouse isn’t a biological parent. Actually, I don’t think that’s entirely true. If you move the child out to his own place, then move both families to a new neighborhood, it will reset their relationships to zero (I wasn’t trying for inbreeding when I did this, Pleasantville was just getting crowded and I wanted to populate my new neighborhood). After getting son and mom back up as friends again, the mom suddenly got the aspiration “flirt with [son].” I don’t know how far it will lead, but it’s something I’ll try out today and see where it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885/40 "2004-11-14T01:40:23Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > Right. Opposite-sex Sims can be “married,” while same-sex Sims only get a “joined union.” Grrrrr… On the bright side, the make a child option in make a sim makes it possible for same sex couples to have offspring that are the biological offspring of both partners. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darn-it-maxis/272885.md?page=3)