# Darrell Issa: This time you've gone too far **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388 "2012-10-21T06:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/21 "2012-10-21T21:43:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Normal people lust for each other, only perverts lust for power. Nobody spends a half-billion dollars, puts his family through the wringer, and says and does anything for a job that pays a mere $400,000 per year and causes massive premature aging unless there’s something in it for them. Pervert? Probably not. Unbridled egomaniac? Absolutely. All politicians, every single one of them, lust for power. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/22 "2012-10-21T23:12:17Z")
Not all non-egomaniacs make life decisions based on the size of their paycheck, or how stressful the decision might be for their family. I would think a military man would recognize that. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/23 "2012-10-21T23:34:33Z")
What does that have to do with Mittens? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2012, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/24 "2012-10-21T23:41:30Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > There are people for whom partisan political advantage seemingly trumps all else, including national security. What I thought was great a couple of years ago was the outrage that Republicans had over Rahman Emmanuel saying that you should never let a crisis go to waste. I mean, they’ve been the fucking poster children for that mentality for decades, but when a Democrat says it, somehow it’s an abominable attitude. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/25 "2012-10-22T00:56:22Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Nobody spends a half-billion dollars, puts his family through the wringer, and says and does anything for a job that pays a mere $400,000 per year and causes massive premature aging unless there’s something in it for them. Pervert? Probably not. Unbridled egomaniac? Absolutely. > > All politicians, every single one of them, lust for power. Ah, the “both sides do it equally” defense. Fucking horseshit. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/26 "2012-10-22T05:43:57Z")
Its indefensible but to be fair, Mitt Romney is thiiiiis close to winning the white house. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/27 "2012-10-22T06:16:02Z")
But to keep things in perspective I have to say that of course all are lusting for power. Duh. There is a difference that is however important IMHO. There is no clear separation in the parties as one can point at exceptions, but currently some politicians seek and lust for power to allow them, as representatives of the people, to tell corporations and other powerful men to take a hike when the common good is at stake. Unfortunately there are also many that seek that power only to defer it to those powerful corporations and to benefit the powerful. Do I have to point out what kind of politician are Issa and Romney and where are they coming from and who they represent? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/28 "2012-10-22T09:37:04Z")
I can never read Darrell Issa’s name without picturing some drunk Discworld character saying it. “Darrell issa…issa…wossname…” ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/29 "2012-10-22T10:15:46Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Ah, the “both sides do it equally” defense. Fucking horseshit. It is not “fucking horseshit”, nor was I defending Darrell Issa. I was addressing the specific post quoted. If I was addressing something else I probably would have quoted that. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/30 "2012-10-22T12:24:34Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > But to keep things in perspective I have to say that of course all are lusting for power. > > Duh. > > There is a difference that is however important IMHO. > > There is no clear separation in the parties as one can point at exceptions, but currently some politicians seek and lust for power to allow them, as representatives of the people, to tell corporations and other powerful men to take a hike when the common good is at stake. > > Unfortunately there are also many that seek that power only to defer it to those powerful corporations and to benefit the powerful. > > Do I have to point out what kind of politician are Issa and Romney and where are they coming from and who they represent? I think it’s quite possible that Issa and Romney don’t see a distinction between those two views. Their rhetoric seems to be based on the idea that the more money and power they (and people like them) have, then that really is for the common good.[sup]\*[/sup] I can certainly see why that would be a comforting belief for a rich person to have; that their wealth and luxury is a benefit to the world. I don’t see much evidence that it’s true. Whether Romney and Issa genuinely believe it, or simply wish us to, is something I don’t think we can ever know. - I may have left out a step in their mental arithmetic. The view might be expressed as “an environment which allows my peers and their corporations to accumulate money and power is to everyone’s benefit,” if that makes a difference. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/31 "2012-10-22T12:32:23Z")
I definitely think that that’s something that at least some of them tell themselves. In cases of multi-generational wealth, they’re probably raised from childhood to believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/32 "2012-10-22T15:07:24Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Do you think Obama knew about Libya and let that happen? Just so we’re clear. Lets have my question answered first. If you think Bush knew that 9/11 was going to happen then you have to accept that Obama knew about the embassy attack. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/33 "2012-10-22T15:17:32Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Lets have my question answered first. If you think Bush knew that 9/11 was going to happen then you have to accept that Obama knew about the embassy attack. If I may jump in here, I don’t believe either, and I don’t know what **miss elizabeth** believes. but it does not logically follow that if you believe one then you must believe the other. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/34 "2012-10-22T15:19:32Z")
Issa is at best a total political hack and a moron and at worst The Manchurian Candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/35 "2012-10-22T15:19:43Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Ah, the “both sides do it equally” defense. Fucking horseshit. So when your side does it it’s A-ok. But when the other side does it they are… > [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > …a megalomaniacal dick who abuses his power to obstruct the entire government based on his fantasies like some modern-day McCarthy. Fuck him. You partisan piece of shit. Go fuck a cactus. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/36 "2012-10-22T15:54:52Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So when your side does it it’s A-ok. But when the other side does it they are… > > You partisan piece of shit. Go fuck a cactus. Fuck your false equivalence with a dirty Occam’s razor! It is Republicans that since Plame are at the front on blowing secret covers for political gain. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/37 "2012-10-22T16:06:31Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So when your side does it it’s A-ok. But when the other side does it they are… > You partisan piece of shit. Go fuck a cactus. no u :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/38 "2012-10-22T21:22:02Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Darrell Issa is a traitor. He put party before country. All of this is simply inexcusable. The Republicans often are very free with accusations of treason, but in these cases, Issa has done real damage. Calling him a traitor isn’t a huge exaggeration. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/39 "2012-10-23T21:12:11Z")
I can say, I never voted for the son of a bitch and never will. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388/40 "2012-10-23T23:18:28Z")
[Issa doubles down, said State Department concerns ‘crap’](http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/22/issa_doubles_down_said_state_department_concerns_crap) I wish this was getting more traction. His timing was good - the Friday right before the last debate only two weeks away from the election. Other priorities are going to make this go away. Unreal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darrell-issa-this-time-youve-gone-too-far/638388.md?page=3)