# Darth Vader vs. Beetlejuice

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 6, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397 "2005-12-06T19:36:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/1 "2005-12-06T19:36:25Z")

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I swear to God I witnessed this battle. Here in Ireland, the most popular chat-show is Friday nights _Late Late Show_. Every uyear, at Christmas, they do a special Late Late Toy Show for kids, decorate the studio fantastically, and get all sorts of Celebreties in for fun and games. This is the only page I can find about it:  
[http://www.rte.ie/arts/2004/1126/latelateshow.html](http://www.rte.ie/arts/2004/1126/latelateshow.html)

Anyway, to kick off the show, a group of kids were shown singing carols, only for comedian David McSavage, in full Beetlejuice get-up, to shoo them away from his door, boo!!! One of the little hirls told him she was going to get her dad to sort him out. Go get your dad, and his army! she was told. Cut to the outside of the studio, where Darth Vader himself awaited the little girls call. Upon hearing the child, Darth, ON HORSEBACK (!!!) stormed into the RTE studios, flanked, bizzarley, by a platoon of Arthurian knights to his left, and a squad of kung-fu monks complete with chinese dragons and a huge mechanical fire-breathing horse. They charged into the studios, where Darth and a couple of stormtroopers closed in on a terrified Beetlejuice. It was… truly surreal. I can’t help but think that a horse-riding Vader leading knights and kung-fu warriors in a quest to punish Beetlejuice was largely wasted on the typical conservative Irish viewer… But you guys would have loved it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/2 "2005-12-06T20:24:52Z")

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When Ep. III was released on DVD, Best Buys all across the country had people–presumably Best Buy employees–in their stores dressed as characters from the second trilogy. I personally witnessed somoene in full Darth Maul regalia having a lightsaber battle with a Stormtrooper!

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/3 "2005-12-06T20:36:11Z")

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Aw, man. I thought this was going to be another standard SDMB versus thread. I was looking forward to seeing someone explain exactly how Beetlejuice would defeat Darth Vader, along with the jokes about what would happen if Batman joined the fray.

Of course, if we’re talking about [this](http://www.nachunsnurnullen.de/surfer/beetlejuice.jpg) Beetlejuice, then all bets are off.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/4 "2005-12-07T00:34:34Z")

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What about _this_ [Beetlejuice](http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~fringwal/betelgeuse.gif)?

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/5 "2005-12-07T01:05:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> What about this Beetlejuice?

[Yoda voice]“Judge me by my size, do you, mrrggh?”[/Yoda]

I find your lack of faith disturbing. The power of a big ball of gas is insignificant when compared to the power of The Force. Search your feelings; you know it to be true. Darth Vader, being strong in the ways of the Dark Side, could destroy even a large star system, if prepared and in command of a fully operational Death Star.

It might take more than a few wacks from the Death Star, and it’ll take a bit “longer” than twelve parsecs, 'cause a star like Betelgeuse is a lot bigger than any planet like Alderaan, but the Death Star [v.I or II] will get the job done… eventually.

😃

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/6 "2005-12-07T05:25:31Z")

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How about Darth Vader v. [Beetle Bailey](http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/bbailey/about.htm)?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/7 "2005-12-07T06:52:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It might take more than a few wacks from the Death Star, and it’ll take a bit “longer” than twelve parsecs, 'cause a star like Betelgeuse is a lot bigger than any planet like Alderaan, but the Death Star [v.I or II] will get the job done… eventually.

See, that’s the thing. As stars go, it actually wouldn’t be all that hard to blow up Betelgeuse. It’s going to do so on its own, soon enough, even without any encouragement. Problem is, you wouldn’t want to be anywhere near it when you did. Like, a lot further than the proverbial twelve parsecs.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/8 "2005-12-07T07:08:03Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> How about Darth Vader v. [Beetle Bailey](http://www.kingfeatures.com/features/comics/bbailey/about.htm)?

I would definitely read a comic strip about a lazy Stormtrooper.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/9 "2005-12-07T10:18:07Z")

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> [@bubastis](#):
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> Darth, ON HORSEBACK (!!!) stormed into the RTE studios, flanked, bizzarley, by a platoon of Arthurian knights to his left, and a squad of kung-fu monks complete with chinese dragons and a huge mechanical fire-breathing horse.

I will kill for a screencap of this.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/10 "2005-12-07T10:20:36Z")

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How do we summon Vadar? Maybe you’ve got to chant three times, “Dagobah, Dagobah, Dagobah!”

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/11 "2005-12-07T13:48:36Z")

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Cartoon Beetlejuice: Toast

Movie Beetlejuice: Tougher to say really. Goes along with the Dumbdorf vs Yoda thread in a way. Beetlejuice isn’t a hand to hand fighter, but he did display some pretty cool and dangerous powers. He could apparently turn Darth into something harmless, or make his lightsabre into a plastic toy.

Personally I lean towards Darth winning eventually, but only because Beetlejuice isn’t hardcore enough to kill Vader quickly and ruthlessly, more likely to mess with him and toy with him before offing him, where Vader would have his eyes for the kill.

I don’t think it would be cut and dry, over in an instant though.

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/12 "2005-12-07T13:53:45Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> I will kill for a screencap of this.

How about a movie clip? It is a .smil format and it doesn’t work on my quicktime, but perhaps you know how to make it work?

> **[Apply for The Late Late Toy Show Tickets](https://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/latelate/)**
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> Apply now

Under Toy Show.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/13 "2005-12-07T15:09:17Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> What about _this_ [Beetlejuice](http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~fringwal/betelgeuse.gif)?

Only if it is the Betelgeuse that PK Dick often used in his stories as the home of unsavory aliens.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/14 "2005-12-08T07:09:05Z")

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> [@Epimetheus](#):
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> How about a movie clip? It is a .smil format and it doesn’t work on my quicktime, but perhaps you know how to make it work?

I tried it—no dice. ☹

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-beetlejuice/334397/15 "2005-12-08T10:04:59Z")

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> [@Epimetheus](#):
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> How about a movie clip? It is a .smil format and it doesn’t work on my quicktime, but perhaps you know how to make it work?
> 
> [Apply for The Late Late Toy Show Tickets](http://www.rte.ie/tv/latelate/)

A very good laugh. It uses RealPlayer. Make sure you have your speakers turned on.
