# Darth Vader vs He-Man **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 12, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876 "2007-09-12T05:07:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fireclown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@Fireclown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fireclown)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/1 "2007-09-12T05:07:44Z")
The Dark Side vs The Power of Grayskull. Ok here are the rules: Darth Vader has his Lightsaber and He-Man has his Power Sword. Other than that, run with it. I assume that the lightsaber would not be able to cut though He Man’s power sword. He man also is alot stronger, but then again Darth Vader can use his force powers. ---
**Author:** ![Iknewit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4491bb/32.png) [@Iknewit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iknewit)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/2 "2007-09-12T05:09:55Z")
Ha ! Evidence of the Paranormal ! ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/3 "2007-09-12T05:42:11Z")
**Moderator’s Note:** Great Debates vs. Cafe Society: Looks like Cafe Society wins this round. Or loses it, from another point of view. ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/4 "2007-09-12T05:43:58Z")
Does he man get to use his cat? That makes a big difference. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/5 "2007-09-12T08:12:09Z")
He-man’s a hero; Vader’s a villain. In childrens’ TV, the hero always wins. ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/6 "2007-09-12T08:21:11Z")
How many confrontations do they have before we learn how they’re related. ---
**Author:** ![Arch\_Trout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@Arch\_Trout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arch_Trout)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/7 "2007-09-12T11:34:41Z")
My money’s on Vader. On the basis that anyone that is willing to kill has the upper hand. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/8 "2007-09-12T11:47:37Z")
Whose toys sell better? He’s the winner in the eyes of the corporate masters. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/9 "2007-09-12T13:45:08Z")
Useless analysis: He-Man was originally designed as an action figure for the movie [Conan the Barbarian](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082198/). It was rebranded and reheaded as He-Man when the toy manufacturers realized not a lot of 9 year olds were going to see Conan. James Earl Jones plays Thulsa Doom in Conan. He kills Conan’s parents, and later in the movie even claims to be Conan’s father: “For who now is your Father if it is not me?” Conan kills Thulsa Doom in the end. So by the transitive property - He-Man over Darth Vader. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/10 "2007-09-12T13:57:00Z")
You big dummy. He-Man isn’t _real._ ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/11 "2007-09-12T14:00:00Z")
Didn’t I hear #21 and #24 having this argument? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/12 "2007-09-12T14:02:08Z")
Let’s look at each contender’s strengths: He-Man has: - A magic sword. - Uber strength. - An extremely weak secret identity. Vader has: - The Dark Side of the Force. - A killing streak a parsec wide. - The entire Imperial Star Fleet at his command. All Vader has to do is find out He-Man’s secret identity (which’ll take what, 5 minutes?), drop onto Eternia in a stealth Sith pod, and storm into any royal event where He-Man is in his normal mode – then Force-grab the sword away. Vader in straight sets, followed by the sort of body count that ends the “kid show” slot. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/13 "2007-09-12T14:59:21Z")
What **Scuba\_Ben** said, with the added theory that he’d also kick the shit out of a Skeletor for being such a two-bit villain. Then Eternia would be ripe for the Imperial pickings. (And I suspect that Palpatine would take Teela as an Imperial concubine, and send Mara Jade after She-Ra.) ETA: Consider too the fact that Vader was the ONLY one able to destroy Sideous in the end. Even friggin _Yoda_ wasn’t able to do it.) ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/14 "2007-09-12T15:16:46Z")
who’s got the higher ground? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/15 "2007-09-12T15:19:22Z")
On the basis of the relative coolness of their costumes, Vader in a walk. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/16 "2007-09-12T15:32:24Z")
Vader easily. Not even a contest. He’d probably slice through He-Man’s sword in the first swipe, then it would be all downhill from there. And if the cat was around, he would be tossed away with a simple swipe of Vader’s hand. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/17 "2007-09-12T15:49:42Z")
Doesn’t He-Man have to say something to activate his powers? Because Vader could use the Force to choke him first. Which suggests that our Darth could be doing a Sudoko puzzle, ordering subordinates about, leering at Princess Leia and **still** thrash He-Man. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/18 "2007-09-12T16:05:55Z")
[QUOTE=glee] Doesn’t He-Man have to say something to activate his powers? Because Vader could use the Force to choke him first. Which suggests that our Darth could be doing a Sudoko puzzle, ordering subordinates about, leering at Princess Leia and **still** thrash He-Man. [/QUOTE] He says something like “By the power of Grayskull, I HAVE THE POWWWWWWWEEEERRRR!” By then he’d be in pieces. But you gotta let him already be He-Man when the fight starts. Still no contest. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/19 "2007-09-12T16:12:56Z")
I think that Darth Vader would cut off He-Man’s hand, take his magic sword, and become He-Vader. He-Man, embittered by the experience, would turn to the Dark side and become Darth Man. Then they would team up to kill Orko. ---
**Author:** ![citybadger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@citybadger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/citybadger)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876/20 "2007-09-12T16:16:45Z")
Jar-Jar vs. Orko. Discuss. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/darth-vader-vs-he-man/418876.md?page=2)