# Das Boot remake?  Seriously?

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**Created:** [August 17, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105 "2015-08-17T19:14:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/21 "2015-08-18T01:39:38Z")

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No comments about the film or proposed remake, but I feel the need to mention that the double O in German is always pronounced like a long O in English. Always. The German word _Boot_, meaning “boat,” is pronounced just like the English word “boat” and not like the English word “boot.” It always bugs me to hear native English speakers do that.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/22 "2015-08-18T02:26:54Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> No comments about the film or proposed remake, but I feel the need to mention that the double O in German is always pronounced like a long O in English. Always. The German word _Boot_, meaning “boat,” is pronounced just like the English word “boat” and not like the English word “boot.” It always bugs me to hear native English speakers do that.

Not according to [Google Translate](https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/Das%20boot).

Sounds more like ‘boort’ (with only a tiny hint of the ‘r’ sound).

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/23 "2015-08-18T02:27:00Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> . . . so what if they remake this, and the Godfather, and Gone with the Wind, and Name Your Favorite Film of All Time??
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> It’s not your money. It’s not your time. You don’t have to spend your money or time to see it, and it won’t prevent anyone from seeing the original.

It won’t _prevent_ people from seeing the original, strictly, but it will make it _possible_ for some people–even accidentally–to end up missing the masterpiece for the imitation. And that would be a shame.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/24 "2015-08-18T02:59:07Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Not according to [Google Translate](https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/Das%20boot).
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> Sounds more like ‘boort’ (with only a tiny hint of the ‘r’ sound).

It is according to all my German professors back in uni.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/25 "2015-08-18T03:01:24Z")

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Who exactly is forcing you to see the remake?

And how does it have any effect whatsoever on the original? Does the original suddenly vanish once a new film is made?

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/26 "2015-08-18T03:20:34Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Not according to [Google Translate](https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/Das%20boot).
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> Sounds more like ‘boort’ (with only a tiny hint of the ‘r’ sound).

Did you click on “Dutch” rather than “German”? :dubious: 😕

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/27 "2015-08-18T03:24:15Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> It won’t _prevent_ people from seeing the original, strictly, but it will make it _possible_ for some people–even accidentally–to end up missing the masterpiece for the imitation. And that would be a shame.

Masterpieces also have a way of fading into obscurity once a remake comes out. _ **Ocean’s 11** _ is a prime example: I’m willing to bet that _at least_ 80% of those who saw the remake have **no fucking idea** that a version with Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack came out more than 50 years ago!

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/28 "2015-08-18T03:28:49Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> There are a number of movies which should never be remade.

Maybe, but what about _Spiderman_? We really need another remake of _Spiderman_.

Oh, and _Jurassic Park_.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/29 "2015-08-18T05:35:35Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Masterpieces also have a way of fading into obscurity once a remake comes out. _ **Ocean’s 11** _ is a prime example!

To subtle for me. Am I being wooshed?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/30 "2015-08-18T05:45:03Z")

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The greatness of Das Boot (if you watch a longer version) is that you get so invested in the lives of the crew over the course of the 6 hours you watch them. I just don’t see any modern production being willing to produce a film of that length. Heck, technically they didn’t allow it even when they made the original film and it was only through applied pressure over time that we got the full, best version.

So, knowing that, it’s basically impossible for someone to make a better version. It’s not my money that’s going into making the thing, but what a waste.

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**Author:** ![Archeonomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Archeonomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archeonomist)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/31 "2015-08-18T12:00:29Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> It is according to all my German professors back in uni.

They were wrong. [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62DpHt\_Ztv0](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62DpHt_Ztv0)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/32 "2015-08-18T12:20:55Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> In a strange twist of fate both the American captain and U-boat commander will be in love with the same girl they met in while on leave in Casablanca before the war.
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> The American captain will be played by Brad Pitt.

All kidding aside, Hollywood surely respects the earlier work too much to do that.

By which I mean Brad Pitt has to be second-in-command to George Clooney, who squares off against U-boat commander Andy Garcia for the love of Julia Roberts.

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**Author:** ![JustinC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justinc/32/8083_2.png) [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/33 "2015-08-18T12:23:18Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> I know it’s virtually sacrilege to say this but . . . so what if they remake this, and the Godfather, and Gone with the Wind, and Name Your Favorite Film of All Time??
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> It’s not your money. It’s not your time. You don’t have to spend your money or time to see it, and it won’t prevent anyone from seeing the original. Really, so what if it totally sucks, it’s no skin off my nose? Nor yours.
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> People want to make money. And they want to tell stories. And they have a different way, with actors and actresses that speak to today’s audience in a way that they would like it to be told.

I think remakes of excellent movies are a waste of resources that could be spent on original ideas, that the remake exists is not an issue; it’s that there are only a limited number of big budget productions every 12 months.

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/34 "2015-08-18T12:25:19Z")

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So who would they cast for the remake of, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly?

Maybe make it a space opera and cast Nathan Fillion as Blondie?

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/35 "2015-08-18T12:27:03Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Masterpieces also have a way of fading into obscurity once a remake comes out. _ **Ocean’s 11** _ is a prime example: I’m willing to bet that _at least_ 80% of those who saw the remake have **no fucking idea** that a version with Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack came out more than 50 years ago!

[being whooshed or not] I’m willing to bet that 80% of those guys wouldn’t ever seen an “old” movie even if they knew it. I mean if you were plugged into Sinatra in the 50s, how many 30s movies were you going to see? Not many I’d bet.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/36 "2015-08-18T14:09:17Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> If you were plugged into Sinatra in the 50s, how many 30s movies were you going to see? Not many I’d bet.

Movies from the '30s, '40s, and '50s were still being shown regularly on TV well into the '80s. Hell, I was born in 1955, and I grew up watching Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Spencer Tracey, et al.

Long after I graduated from high school, they would still show the original _ **Ocean’s 11** _ at least once a year, on local if not network TV. It may not be the world’s greatest work of art, but it’s an okay heist flick and was popular a lot longer than many of the films that have come and gone since.

No one born after about 1968 realizes just how _cool_ Sinatra and his gang were back then. JFK actually came to Vegas to see them when they were filming the movie, and they acted as though they were jesters at his court. It was a great symbiotic relationship until Frank and Jack had their falling out.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/37 "2015-08-18T14:12:53Z")

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Would they DARE call it “Das Re-Boot”?

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**Author:** ![Toy\_varen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Toy\_varen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toy_varen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/38 "2015-08-18T14:17:38Z")

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Is it just me or am I the only one who didn’t really like the film?

To me, this is like the multiple Carrie, Psycho, or Amityville Horror remakes. If I don’t care about the first version, I’m just ho hum on the remake…not likely to even try to watch it.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/39 "2015-08-18T14:21:25Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Movies from the '30s, '40s, and '50s were still being shown regularly on TV well into the '80s. Hell, I was born in 1955, and I grew up watching Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Spencer Tracey, et al.
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> Long after I graduated from high school, they would still show the original _ **Ocean’s 11** _ at least once a year, on local if not network TV. It may not be the world’s greatest work of art, but it’s an okay heist flick and was popular a lot longer than many of the films that have come and gone since.
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> No one born after about 1968 realizes just how _cool_ Sinatra and his gang were back then. JFK actually came to Vegas to see them when they were filming the movie, and they acted as though they were jesters at his court. It was a great symbiotic relationship until Frank and Jack had their falling out.

Do you really think that without the new ocean’s 11, people would still be watching the original? If anything, more people have seen the original BECAUSE it was remade, for the people that never heard of it until they saw the remake and wanted to see the original.

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/das-boot-remake-seriously/728105/40 "2015-08-18T14:28:46Z")

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Das Boot has a great soundtrack, I hope the remake gives us another great one.

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